Something Big Is Going On: Ron Paul

I remember seeing Ross Perot on a talk show in the early 90s. He said the
American people shun the truth. He said if people don't wise up and reject
both democrats and republicans, America is "going down the tubes."

He then said that the American people are partying. The building they are
partying in is on fire. The fire alarms are ringing. The people turn up the music
to drown out the alarms. He was so right!

God Bless Ron Paul.

Originally posted by dirtonwater
Why doesn't this goofy little loon understand no one cares what he has to say ?

Don't get him wrong, he understands too well. You're a shining example.

I do have to admit though, he does bring a much needed comic aspect to the political process this year. I just wish they would place circus music whenever he is around.

What exactly will that achieve?

Being an unchallenged sole superpower was never accepted by us with a sense of humility and respect. Our arrogance and aggressiveness have been used to promote a world empire backed by the most powerful army of history. This type of globalist intervention creates problems for all citizens of the world and fails to contribute to the well-being of the world’s populations. Just think how our personal liberties have been trashed here at home in the last decade

Never a truer word spoken.

Somehow, ''I told you so'' doesn't quite do it for the masses, does it? When will people learn?

I tell ya folks - I live in the relative peace and simplicity of Ireland where the first sign (give or take) of fraud or tax evasion etc by a politician and he's out and where a vote counts! But just reading certain things on ATS makes me incredibly frustrated at the lack of action. You guys must be bitting your hands off!! I know I am - the feeling of helplessness is just spirit crushing.

Breifne

I believe that there is another Congressional hearing on the Bear Sterns issue in Congress next week. Con. Paul was less than impressive in the first one. Paul is on the House Banking committee, my question for him is where has he been while everything that caused this current mess happened?

Though I personally think Ron Paul is a decent enough guy, and way better than your average politico, he is definately not going to be able to get anything of substance accomplished by himself. When he gets time to question people like Jamie Dimon or Ben Bernake I'd much rather him get into specifics than the generalities he did last time.

I too, agree with almost every of Dr. Paul's assessments on the current climate of not just the economy, not just the military, not just the militarization or tyranny, but the climate of America.


I'm sorry if I digress or go off-topic with the following, but somehow I think it relevant with what's being said in circumspect.

Recently, (as irresponsible or radical as it may seem), I resigned my position for which I was paid well and offered $30,000 more per year to remain. While, at heart I do enjoy security, my reasoning for such a move is simple (albeit idealistic): I want to make a change SOMEHOW, SOMEWHERE and, at the moment I don't know where or how but I DO want to find it. Yes, I acquiesced on the overall security, for the uncertainity of no job, no prospects within a VERY uncertain and unstable economy, to attempt to make a difference in this world. My only redeeming attribute is that I am completely debt free...everything I have, I own, which is not much at all, and I have no family or ties that would suffer because of this move.

(As a side note, I'm not a recent graduate or over-zealous teenager who still may have a lot of life to experience yet, I'm 43 years old and believe, while I may be wrong, that I know what I'm doing)

The reason I say this, is because I don't know what life is going to have in store for me, however I DO see the writing on the wall if people don't attempt to do SOMETHING to affect some kind of change in this world most specifically in this country; any security I COULD have attained would have been short-lived and all for naught.

We all have to start making sacrifices, ALL of us. Give up the big screen TV's, give up the Beer-guzzling 'were number one' boasting, 'all I know is Monday night football and bet heavily on MY team ' cheering, lack of self-sufficience mindset's that have brought our liberties and our freedoms and our REAL security to it's knees and MAKE some radical moves..learn something new, something different, MAKE a change for the good and America strong again...a country where not only the nationals but the other countries once again view us as a good people, and fair people, and a people who WANT good for others instead of 'White Phosphoring' them out of existence.

Amortize the total cost of the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, and ask yourselves:

How many tanks of gas could that have fueled?
How many hungry families could that have fed?
How many homes that were abandoned could that have saved?
How many jobs could that have created?
How many Education programs could that have subsidized?
How many LIVES could that have saved?


AB1

reply to post by Anonymous ATS


If you voted for Bush, I say your just as guilty as him... The same thing is happening with obama, Blind ignorant people that dont know how to read a persons true character. Not to bash obama, but anyone who spends that much money to make change isnt going to be making a whole lot of change imo...

But could Ron Paul effectively run this country in his vision,meaning more so in a time of war?Not stating my opinion,just curious as to how other members here on ATS feel about if he did become president.

reply to post by Mailman


Excellent point,I hope your wrong though for the sake of America.Why?Because I believe Obama is going to defeat McCain in a land slide(partially because I believe Hillary will be his running mate)

Originally posted by jefwane
I believe that there is another Congressional hearing on the Bear Sterns issue in Congress next week. Con. Paul was less than impressive in the first one. Paul is on the House Banking committee, my question for him is where has he been while everything that caused this current mess happened?

Where has Ron Paul been while this has been happening? The question is where have you been. Youtube is your friend on this one. Ron Paul has been talking about this for 4 to 6 years now and you can see all the Cspan meetings and congressional meetings on youtube. He has be the only one RIGHT and yet people still call him a nut. Its funny watching him speak and then the others in congress because you can tell that Paul is on a much higher level than these guys. So yes RP has been speaking about this for awhile its just now that its coming true its getting more and more peoples attention. But it will be to late before enough people wake up to make a difference. Our country will be bankrupted and sold off to the highest bidder. I hope you guys are willing to learn Chinese or Arabic.

reply to post by mybigunit


I've heard him talk, I'm asking what he's done. Has he held up anything in committeee? His performance in that Joint Committee hearing on BSC really soured me on him. He had an excellent opportunity to bring up specifics and compel answers, he chose only to rail against the system as a whole instead of getting into the nitty gritty of what happened.

Originally posted by jefwane
reply to post by mybigunit

 

I've heard him talk, I'm asking what he's done. Has he held up anything in committeee? His performance in that Joint Committee hearing on BSC really soured me on him. He had an excellent opportunity to bring up specifics and compel answers, he chose only to rail against the system as a whole instead of getting into the nitty gritty of what happened.

Not only has he talked but look at his voting record but if its 449 to 1 on the vote what can you do and in Pauls case that is what it has been on many of these votes. We need more people like RP to run. Im going to run in another 4 years. Im afraid of what may happen by then though.

BTW I just realized your talking about the BSC deal Im talking about our whole situation in general. Is there video of RP on the BSC deal I would like to hear how he acted.

[edit on 4-7-2008 by mybigunit]

reply to post by mybigunit


I tried finding it on youtube. I'm pretty sure I posted a link somewhere on ATS back when it happened. It should still be available on CSPAN. I can't remember the date right now.

Originally posted by Mailman
reply to post by Anonymous ATS

 

If you voted for Bush, I say your just as guilty as him... The same thing is happening with obama, Blind ignorant people that dont know how to read a persons true character. Not to bash obama, but anyone who spends that much money to make change isnt going to be making a whole lot of change imo...

i don't want to go as far as saying someone is guilty. that is btw them and their conscience. i almost voted for bush in the last election, and literally at the last second i ended up writing in another lesser known candidate. i didn't know what at the time, but something wasn't setting well in the back of my mind. looking back, i can clearly see what it was... i can think back to his speech at the republican convention and see right through everything he was saying then.

i have a clear conscience and that is something you can't buy for any amount of money.

ron paul is the best chance we have now to get things straight short of forcing the rest of the whitehouse. i am just hoping and praying that enough ppl can see this before nov. hey, i am a dreamer

[edit on 4-7-2008 by justamomma]

[edit on 4-7-2008 by justamomma]

Originally posted by jefwane
my question for him is where has he been while everything that caused this current mess happened?

Don't you love how people pile on Ron Paul when he shows that he's human and can't solve every single problem in this country by himself?

They don't pile on Obama, or McCain, or Clinton. No, no. It doesn't matter that they're in Congress too. And not only that, they are in the Senate, the seemingly much more powerful Congressional body. And they've accomplished absolutely nothing in the interests of the people. But that doesn't matter, does it?

Nope, because Ron Paul is honest, he is expected to fix everything by himself. I guess that means that if you lie, you aren't expected to fix anything, leaving your schedule wide open to fit in your corporate masters.

That actually may be accurate. It seems thats whats been happening for quite some time in this country.

Sad but this man is urinating into a very stiff breeze.

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by DimensionalDetective

 

I use to be a Republican until I saw that Bush has been doing things that I expect from socialists and communists.

You cannot blame the entire Republican party because of the actions of one or more individuals. Bush and his other ultra-liberal neo-con cohorts do not represent what the party originally stood for, true conservatism.

There are many of us still in the Republican party that believe in true conservative principles and returning our party back to our roots. Although right now we are the minority in the party and the neo-cons have total control, if we work hard enough we can regain control of the party and send it back in the right direction.

Rather than being a coward and leaving the party because of Bush or other Neo-Cons, why not stay in the party and help us fight to take our party back and return it to what it originally stood for, when it was the party of the people, peace and freedom?

I can't believe my eyes.

Is it because LaRouche looks like a normal man unable to be a president?
Is it he is too old? What is it?

What Paul mention, was predicted by LaRouche years ago.
Yes! Maybe now you believe that he told the truth when he predicted a financial global collapse long long time ago. No one was listen. Anyone believed he was a liar, an idiot who wrong words..

This looks more like Paul is harvesting the fruits while just copy + paste articles from www.larouchepac.com...

have a watch:
www.larouchepac.com...

have a look:
www.larouchepub.com...

Here in Germany, the official media is finally speaking about bio-fuel is 75% responsible for the higher prices on food. Wow. What new News... (omg)
LaRouche told that before the hype was even going on. Its also responsible for million hungering people in the 3rd world. Since maize, wheat, and much more plants are used to gain and create bio-fuel which in the other case could feed hundred of thousand if not million of people. Isn't that just plain sick? And, isn't is funny that i have to enter a challenge to submit my post which reads "Bilderberg".

I happened to be watchign the begginning of the O'riely factor earlier and he said that the oil execs are making 55 million dollars a year and then he made the statement that in France when the elite had everything and the people had nothing there was a french revolution and the american people are not going to tolerate the oil execs making record profits from the starvation and suffering of the average american.

reply to post by guyopitz


Back then during the French Revolution the people in power didn't have the media that we have today to be used as propaganda to control the people. There was no internet news, no TV, no newspaper (if there was not many got the newspaper).

Today we have all that though and the people in power use it to control us. Do you really think people are going to revolt if the all-powerful television and "news" tell them it's not a safe idea to revolt? Or if they assure everyone that there is no revolt going on, and that anyone wanting to recruit you for the revolution is a terrorist or wants to rape you?

reply to post by OrangeAlarmClock


Yup you have a 24/7 propaganda machine that spouts the following...




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Any questions???