U.S.A Versus Russia in an all out War?

If you want to think back in history in the 70s and 80s then it was the Soviet Union.They had over 20,000 nuclear warheads.I wonder who would have won that one???

reply to post by Arc Angel

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Russia dont give one wooden nickel about America NOT to use nuclear in the first place.If this Iran airstrikes go ahead and other cra* hits the fan.Stick around long enough,cause the worst case scenario you just might get yourself a nuclear war with Russia.More than proof out there this could happen.

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Well you can count them if you want, even if no one else does. They are also useless. Here is what is said about those shale deposits:



I think your source might be jerking you around a bit.

I don't think you would ever see a straight up US vs Russia war in any event. It would be a war that truly was a world war. I don't even want to guess at the sides. The end would be predictable, but we got there wouldn't be.

Call the US smart for using other resources all you want...I call it a leech.

Anyone who disagrees is wrong?

Forgive me for pointing out the obvious, but your little theory here about 500,000 Marines hitting Russia from 2 sides would be a little difficult considering there are only 230,000 current Marines. Thats TOTAL marines, not combat ready or trained Marines.

Do you know of an extra 270,000 combat ready Marines sitting around somewhere that no one else knows about? If not, YOU ARE WRONG.

It really helps if you do some research before making a post and ending it with "if you disagree, you are wrong".

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reply to post by alienstar

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If it meant us firing back 200x what they're firing at us I'd think they'd care. And the 70's and 80's thing did happen, with the nuclear arsenals going toe to toe. Except no one ever used the damn things, so we just kept on high alert until the USSR broke down.

Oh I know there are some on the list. I used to live in one that was #1 on the list for Canada. The largest Air Weapons range in North America, got to see lots of really cool planes. I am sure we have US missiles pointed at us too since we are so close to Russia and they would probably come through us to get to you. Either way we are boned.

reply to post by slackerwire

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I never specified when this war was suppose to take place. That was a theorical senario of an all out war. I'm pretty sure that if went back to the draft we'd have no problem getting 500,000 combat ready Marines. My scenario was based off of 2 D-Day landing type invasions from Russia on each side. (Even though on D-Day we only landed 175,000)

Make believe war is ok to talk about.But even any conventional war with Russia would always most likely lead to a nuclear war.They are pitbulls and don't care bout even their own.

There is no way you would ever get 250,000 troops anywhere near the east side of Russia. The Chinese would never let you. You can think what you want, but they would destroy every attempt you made to get there.

reply to post by Arc Angel

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You do know the draft is unconstitutional right?

How? They have no Navy.

You know that it's because of the draft we won WW2, right?
(More draft dodgers in WW2 then in Vietnam)

You can't politely ask a nation of people who are used to partying all the time to go out and die for Freedom and expect them to go. You have to put a foot in their ass.

You know that it's because of the draft we won WW2, right?
(More draft dodgers in WW2 then in Vietnam)

You can't politely ask a nation of people who are used to partying all the time to go out and die for Freedom and expect them to go. You have to put a foot in their ass.

reply to post by Arc Angel

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They don't need a navy, they just have to wait on dry land for you to come ashore. Any planes trying drops would be taken out. The logistics of even trying to do that would be ridiculous.

PS You didn't win WW2, the Russians did.


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Why would u want to send troops on a ground war when you never even did airstrikes first?You dont do both at once.First thing u take out communications and airfields before they try to even get off the ground.Then military installion,intelligence,and muntions depots.The list goes on.

reply to post by Arc Angel

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It would help if you actually researched your claims

Are you ever right about anything?

Now he got me sucked into it.

I can use wikipedia too.

en.wikipedia.org...

Take a look at the # of Aircraft carriers China has. Compare them to the US. Take a look at the # of Destroyers, Cruisers, etc. and compare them to the # we have. I rest my case.

reply to post by Arc Angel

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Given your willingness to disregard the Constitution, how about we simply put a foot in your ass by removing your Constitutionally protected rights?

After all, given the number of times you have already been proven wrong, you really don't need your 1st Amendment rights do you?

Your words, not mine.

You didn't say they didn't have any carriers, you said they had no Navy. You were proven wrong.

I rest my case.


Does being humiliated over and over hurt?