Someone posted this not so long ago...so I'd figure I'd revive this dead topic because I never got the chance to put my 2 cents in. Here's were I stand:

"USA would win hands down. It wouldn't even be a war, more like a slaughter. "But how can you say that? Russia is surely equal to us in every aspect!" Really? It just so happens I have evidence to support my claim. You people have no idea how powerful the USA really is.

1.) The United States Economy surpasses Russian Economy by more than 10 fold in terms of GDP. Not only is our economy so much stronger then Russia's, but we are also the world's leading producer of oil. (Look it up, it's true. US is more idependent then you think.) Sucks Russia rely's on US money, just as the rest of the world does. (China)

2.) 3.7% of our GDP goes to our defense budget, yet our defense budget is SO HUGE if you put all of the world's military budgets together you'd only match it. And that's only using 3.7% of our Economy, during WW2 we were using 30% of our GDP to fund the war effort.

3.) Even with such a small percentage of our Economy going towards military funding we are able to maintain the 2nd largest military and most well equiped military in the world. (So, not only do we outnumber them, but our equipment is FAR superior to there's)

4.) The US Power Projection Cababilities are unmatched. 11 Carrier battlegroups (Russia, by the way, only has 1 Aircraft carrier which is old. We have 22 Aircraft carriers, 11 of them nucleared powered and containing the most sophysicated weapon systems known to man). Each of those groups has enough firepower to start and end a war. It's one thing to declare a war, but in 24 hours expect US battlegroups to converge on Russia, each carrying a Marine Expeditionary Force. Russia can't fight a 2 front war! The damn country is so big, we'd use it's size against it. So you got 250,000 Marines pushing West; 250,000 pushing East; Stealth Bombers coming in from Alaska as well as the Artic and a letter saying US is pulling out its funding to the Russian Economy. All of this happens in just a couple of days. You can't manuever your people fast enough to defend against that.

5.) "What about if they nuke us?" We shot down, with a single destroyer, a sattelite from outer #ing space! Trust me, no missiles are getting through our defense systems. We have missiles designed to go after other missiles and blow them up, and all the laser weaponary we secretly have too. They'd basically ask for a death wish because we'd shoot down their missiles and then we'd just blow the # out of them.

6.) "What if they built up their #'s then declared war?" Well, we have Apaches that can single handedly take out an entire tank column. We can fire tomahawk missiles from hundreds of miles away and blow up planes, tanks, rockets, people, before they even see us. Russia wouldn't even be able to attack America, THEY HAVE NO NAVY! What are they going to do, swim?

So as I said, it wouldn't even be a war. Given Russia's size...if we went all out...I'd give it 3 weeks before we'd have complete control. Minimal casualties. F-22 would also rock the # out of that new fighter that Russia is trying to build. We'd blow those son's of bitches out of the air before they'd even see us. I don't know what the fighter is called, but I can almost gaurantee that they're using US Generation 1 stealth technology that we sold to them. Too bad that's already obsolete by our standards. God bless America."

Anyone who disagrees is wrong.

Wars have changed, I don't think we will ever see all out conventional war again and certainly not against the Russians. Low intensity coflict is the way wars wil be fought and we should've planned even earlier on that years ago. As a matter of fact, I am still trying to figure out why we fielded the F22.
Vance

You have made your own bed now sleep in it.People are going to either love this thread or hate it.Of course since u said all out war which would include the nuclear triad of ballistic missiles,sub launched,and long range bombers.There would be no need for any winners since we both are blown off the whole map.

Sorry bud we dont have any weapons in space...and what goes up must come down.You cant stop that many missiles and when i say 500?Thats not including sub launched and bomber.Now are are talking in the 1000s.Sorry you cant win a nuclear war.Now if you want to talk conventional war,thats different.But nuclear war never has a winner.

Originally posted by alienstar
Sorry bud we dont have any weapons in space...and what goes up must come down.You cant stop that many missiles and when i say 500?Thats not including sub launched and bomber.Now are are talking in the 1000s.Sorry you cant win a nuclear war.Now if you want to talk conventional war,thats different.But nuclear war never has a winner.

I am not sure about that. I think I read somewhere that cockroaches could survive a nuclear war. So I guess they would probably cheer pretty loudly. The sucky part is that no human would ever hear it.

Oh yeah thanks for reminding me about the fall out as well.Yeah nuclear winters are fun.Can u imagine how much livestock and crops would be gone?

Originally posted by alienstar
Oh yeah thanks for reminding me about the fall out as well.Yeah nuclear winters are fun.Can u imagine how much livestock and crops would be gone?

Dude I am in Canada, I am not sure nuclear winter can be any colder than it is here already.

Originally posted by alienstar
Sorry bud we dont have any weapons in space...and what goes up must come down.You cant stop that many missiles and when i say 500?Thats not including sub launched and bomber.Now are are talking in the 1000s.Sorry you cant win a nuclear war.Now if you want to talk conventional war,thats different.But nuclear war never has a winner.

Never said we had weapons in space (Although we probably do) I said we can fire missiles up into space and shoot things down. Now, you said Sub lauched and bomber. I mentioned before Russia has hardly any Navy. (1 Semi working Aircraft carrier, and a bunch of submarines) So Russia's bombers would have to fly across the Arctic before they'd be able to drop their payloads...on what? Alaska? Our interceptors would shoot them down either in Alaska or in Canada.

As for the sub launched we really can't stop you there. We have a large Navy and would probably be able to pin-point where those missiles are coming from and blow those subs up. But I don't think Russia's sub fleet is cabable of launching 500 missiles.

And forget so soon our Boomer submarine? Each one contains more firepower than all the bombs dropped during WW2 (Yes, including Atomic) combined.

Every major city with a big population,all military bases,nuclear power plants,major text and industry sites gone.GONE GONE GONE GONE.