Originally posted by jamie83

Originally posted by SavageHenry planets...


Although you may have proven that life exists on

Please save us from the REAL threat...

Dude, quit derailing the thread. If you've got nothing to offer go bother somebody else.

You have nothing to offer at all...

Stop making pointless and inane threads

Oh good jamie, so now you are editing your own pictures in photo shop. NICE

How do you explain this (which I did in photoshop)?




End of the phrase is "coffee".

Seriously man.

I know this is a passionate subject but I don't really want to see anymore one liner, off topic responses in here because that just opens the door for massive derailing.

Thanks,

Spiderj

I've actually done it with other images but used Fireworks. I'm not sure if I still have Fireworks loaded, but will see if I can display to you what I'm referencing.

Here would be the process:

1) Take existing pre-scanned image into a graphics editor
2) Replace the existing text with new text

In your examples AnOldFriend, you added new text but didn't replace any. Replacing the text is key to producing this pixilization or "Halo-like" effect.

To replace the previous text, there are a few different methods. One is to simply "White out" the text and then add the new text.

Another method is to use the clone tool to clone the background onto the text, thus replacing the text with a cloned background.

The problem with cloning, is it is only an estimation of the pixels. It uses an estimation and coloring to mimic the background on the non-native image.

Once you place text onto this cloned part of the image, pixilization occurs.

These Obama threads are really becoming good for a laugh.

Photoshopped...fake birth certificate...uh oh...he must be...an deadly evil Foreigner!!!.

Come on. There is no proof of this at all, just a bunch of wishful thinking.

Keep trying Jamie you may actually find something worth paying attention to.
This ain't it though.

Just attack him on issues if you want something to work with, but this other stuff you guys are putting out here really looks desperate.

Even if you back each other up on it.

- Lee

Originally posted by TruthWithin
OK. When you print out an image of something that was scanned digitally and then scan this image (which is what I believe has happened) you will get these artifacts throughout. They are there throughout.

I'm trying to understand what your saying here.

1. Paper is scanned.
2. Scanned image is printed out
3. Printed out image is scanned again

I don't understand why this process would have been applied to the Obama CoB.

Presumably the certificate was printed by Hawaii and sent to Obama. The certificate was scanned and the black box was added in Photoshop. Then the image was published online. So here's what presumably DID happen:

1. Certificate printed on laser printer.
2. Certificate edited in Photoshop.
3. Edited image saved an uploaded.

So how would this sequence add artifacts??

Originally posted by AnOldFriend


Did you look at the first image i made on the first page? The manner in which i took out the original text is probably the best way to go about it. I am sure any idiot with PS would do the same thing as i did.

But herein lies the difference....

You edited a file that was already uploaded. The Obama people had to first scan a document, and then photoshop the scanned document. Then they had to save the edited document.

The reason their image has pixelation and yours doesn't is because they were working on the original scan that most likely was a different resolution and bit depth than the save photoshopped file.

Your edited file started and ended with the same resolution image. That's why there was no distortion or artifacts.

Originally posted by SavageHenry
You have nothing to offer at all...

Stop making pointless and inane threads

Just ignore them if you don't like them. Try sticking to the T&C and discuss the topic, not the poster.

Someone earlier in the thread stated that their Mother had a CoB from Hawaii (she too was born in the early 1960s) and that only two things were the same between her Mother's and Obama's version. The Seal and the background.

Otherwise, the font and positioning were different.

If this is a fake digitial representation of Obama's cert, which I believe it is, I believe Obama had someone find another CoB from Hawaii, load it into Photoshop and replace the text. This would account for the font variance, positioning and pixilization.

Originally posted by TruthWithin

How do you explain this (which I did in photoshop)?

Seriously man.

I have no idea how you did it in photoshop. Want to explain? It may then explain why Obama's CoB looks similar to what you did.

By the way, what's wrong with editing the image by changing the gamma correction to bring out the artifacts so you can see them? It's not like I edited the image and tried to hide the fact. I'm just trying to find the truth here.

AnOldFriend, you would need a guide though as to where the orignial text was if you were going to replace. Your replacements were random.

In your example, you dumped a new version of the background onto the existing background, thus removing the text.

What if you need to replace the name Joe Schmoe? You want the new name to appear in the same spot. For this reason, you would not dump a new background over the existing image (as a clean slate).

Originally posted by lee anoma
Come on. There is no proof of this at all, just a bunch of wishful thinking.

Lee, what there is no proof of at this point is that the Certificate of Birth released by Obama is actually real. Obama adds to the suspicion about this because he's attempted to portray the 2007 Certificate of Birth as his "Birth Certificate", implying that it was the 1961 document and NOT a 2007 document.

I think the wishful thinking at this point is on the part of the Obama supporters who are hoping that the CoB hasn't been doctored.

Originally posted by jetxnet

If this is a fake digitial representation of Obama's cert, which I believe it is, I believe Obama had someone find another CoB from Hawaii, load it into Photoshop and replace the text. This would account for the font variance, positioning and pixilization.

This would also explain why they needed to black out the certificate no. If they used somebody else's certificate they would probably make sure that the Cert. no. was blacked out so that it couldn't be traced back to the person whose certificate they used.