Obviously, I don't fully understand the technology behind this. But it would make sense that a web bot would predict an apocalypse in 2012 because there is so much discussion and bandwith already dedicated to it. I guess I don't understand how it is making its predictions, but this one doesn't surprise me and I don't think this changes the validity of 2012 one way or the other.

I'll have to wait until later to view the videos.

Thanks Mike, looks like another interesting thread.

The Bot's source material is the World Wide Web? So it takes it information from places like blogs and boards? Garbage in - garbage out.

Show us where this bot has predicted *beforehand* in plain language an actual major impact event. Not just collected every possibility and listed them out.

I liked it better when at least future predictors pretended there was some sort of mystery involved in the process. WWW + Prolog = psychic machine. Why did we not think of this sooner?

Hi Mike - very interesting and definitely worth further investigation, I have never come across this project before..

I agree with Karlhungis regarding the 2012 references you can't trip over a bumpy carpet these days without it being linked in some way to 2012..

I would imagine that the results about the millennium bug and the related disasters at that time would have been high on it's predictometer due to the amount of chat and paranoia going on in the media...

Cool thread - thanks

Berth

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I also don't know how this works,but if the web bot is getting the info from theweb,and thereare alot of end of times profecy websites,then surely it will come to this conlusion?

Then again,maybe all these websites are a collective consiousness that we've all created as one,and it's picking up on this,and it's just the natural message we're all sending to one another. Who knows. Not me,that's for sure.


Thanks for posting this,it's most thought provoking.

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The web bot is weird tech and thats for sure.

I am one of those who thinks that 2012 is not a good year to be on planet earth full stop, but hey, we cannot get off so what will be will be.

The references to UFOs and such like is also weird - but then as others have said if it takes from the web well, the webs chock a block of ufo / 2012 talk.

However, i also believe in the collective consciousness of man kind, and maybe this is just us getting ourselves ready for events to come.

The way I have always understood this is that there is a super computer database known as the Beast, hence the mark of the beast and the Verichip, DNA databases and Big Brother. They really are watching!

Seriously sick tech!! but you have to ask, how many predictions did it make that didn't come true? it must make thousands a day and as the future is fluid, they can't all happen. So we come to the same question again, how can we know what will and won't happen? still though, it's the best thing we've got and it's pretty f'in cool!!

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thanks. EMM

Pointers to an apocalypse in 2012 is foretold in:

> I Ching.

> The Mayan Calendar.

> The Upanishads.

> Nostradamus.

> Merlins predictions that the planets will “run riot”, completely off their normal paths of rotation.

> The Bible.

Cool thread - really interesting stuff, must look into further.


Where in the Bible does it mention the date 2012? This part of your thread I can find no reference to back it up.

Originally posted by Burginthorn
Where in the Bible does it mention the date 2012? This part of your thread I can find no reference to back it up.

Nowhere directly (unless you think that vivid descriptions of visions are somehow proof). The only place I can think of is the Book of Revelation. This Book mentions, among many other things, a 12-headed dragon that wages war against (I think) Michael, the Archangel. I am aware that some people believed this to mean that during the year 2012, China would wage war against the U.S. Oh yeah, the Book also mentioned a female leader fighting against the dragon, which made people think that Hilary Clinton would be president during this time and that China would wage war with the U.S. I thought all this was pretty convincing back when I first heard of this (some years ago), but now I am not so sure (although I do, for some reason, think there is something special about 2012, probably simply because we are all talking about it).

Also, I guess I should mention that one should be skeptical of the other "pointers" of this apocalypse that mikesingh mentions (unless a specific source directly mentions that there will be an apocalypse in 2012). In my opinion, the Book of Revelation does not say it directly. What of the other "pointers?" I am sure Nostradamus is too vague to be direct proof. The Mayan calendar is great proof for this or so I have heard. Any others?

Yeah that would kind of make since. I could see Hillary being the great whore of Babylon. After all, she is a whore.

Call me a wet blanket and overly simplistic, but this doesn't seem like a reasonable prediction mechanism to me.

Why?

Well as stated, it works by searching the web for words and discussions in heavy use. That is, it essentially searches for what is popular at a given time...

All that is happening here, as I see it, is that we have got a lot of nuts (no offense... but meh) on the net ranting on and on about 2012 with as much, if not more energy than Y2K. People, what don't you get about doomsday predictions being wrong? EVERY time in human history a doomsday event has been predicted, it has been totally incorrect. Oh no that's not important though, let's glaze over that and move on to 2012 ranting. Hey what's up next? 2020? 2050? Nah that's too much of a gap... 2020 then umm... 2035. There you go, there's a date.

Anyway, all this does is talk about what is popular. We have a lot of people rambling on about 2012 problems and so it 'predicts' a problem in 2012. In effect though, all we did is predict it in the first place (based on nothing) and this machine is just reading back to us.

Get over it people, 2012 is just Y2K all over again... Actually, at least Y2K had some physical basis, this is based on a stupid old calendar that is ending. Do we all explode at the end of each year? No. We just start a new calendar. So do the Mayans, they just happened to be even more superstitious than we are.

To the OP: Thanks for posting, it's a well presented thread and interesing. In particular I liked the info on web bots because I've been trying to find more out about them. However, I think this is totally ridiculous.

My 2c, as usual.

I think that all of this talk of 2012 may bring about a calamity, simply because the people WANT something bad to happen then. To me, this screams of a "self-fulfilling prophecy".

However, there's another possibility. There may be a concerted effort to encourage people to feel this sense of dread leading up to 2012, so that when something happens, we'll all know what to do, and where to go. This could very well point to a conspiracy in the highest orders of mainstream media, as well as ancient historical texts.

This very topic has been bandied back and forth for some 500 years at least. In that time, no one has ever come forward with conclusive evidence to suggest that anything such as is being suggested could occur in 2012. All that we have is mere speculation based on someone's word.

The fact that the world's ecosystem is based in a cyclical manner lends credence to this notion of a cyclical catastrophe, ergo the Mayan Calendar. The truth though is that the event that everyone thinks will happen in 2012 is not based around the actions of the planet, or the ecosystem, but of the people themselves. The suggestion has been for a long time that there could be a catastrophe like a volcano or an asteroid, but is more likely to be a world war involving every nation on earth against one superpower.

These thoughts all stem from this notion that we're on the precipice of some great calamity, when there's no valid evidence to suggest anything of the sort. So, with this all said, I ask you, my fellow ATSers, is it REALLY as bad as we all say that it is, or are we just allowing ourselves to continue to be deluded by the masses?

You Decide,

TheBorg

How in the world would the program predict a gunshot wound? That makes no sense at all.

The bot stated gun shot wounding referenced to Vice President Dick Cheney.