reply to post by MASH_DADDY
Thanks for the praise!
Really appreciate it. ATS threads end up having a few really well-thought out replies with actual useful information and
insight and many many useless posts which are people lashing out because of how they think we should think. I always try to come from a skeptical yet
open-minded angle on these issues and provide cited sources for all my data. I, like many people, initially believed the nonsense fed to me since
grade school about NASA and space exploration and manned missions altogether.
The point is that science is not exact and always changing as our understanding progresses. Sometimes scientific discoveries, inevitably, challenge
the status quo and turn what was previously believed to be scientific fact on it's head. This means that all these people who are SO SURE about what
they know really have no idea how the world works. Science itself is a matter of what we think we know about the universe. Science is always taught
to us as fact and we are rarely ever taught to think for ourselves and be inquisitive about how it all fits together in the big picture.
I always thought that the moon hoaxes were really hoaky growing up. When I was a young teenager my 83 year old great grandfather told me they were
faked but I thought he was just old and didn't know what he was talking about. But all these years I kept it in the back of my mind.
I have alot of problems with this sub-culture of alternative thinking which will always involves fraud and disinformation. But every once in a while,
you will see a little piece of the puzzle that isn't so easy to refute. My post about those hills all being identical yet all being supposedly
photographed and/or videotaped on 3 different apollo missions?
I've read all of TeD Tweitmeyer's evidence on rense regarding the apollo moon hoax and I disagree with 99 percent of what he sais. Ted also has a
tendency to not do enough research which sometimes makes him look naive. He will post all these photos, all this supposed evidence with scribbling
and arrows.. Followed by a seemingly endless explanation of conjecture mixed in with some semblence of scientific reality which so many people just
willingly ingest and blindly believe... You have to be smarter than that and be able to come to your own conclusions. That means skepticism is key
and being able to discuss these things (Like ATS: up
become so critical to creating an educated opinion based on fact. It isn't so hard to do
sometimes, but it is essential if you are going to find the truth. That's what it is all about after all.. And scientists are not so willing to risk
their careers and big-money grants to find the truth due to the stigma attached to certain fields of study.
After researching everything from NASA UFO's to the secret military space program I am convinced that we have been being lied to from the beginning
of manned space flight. You have all these people who have come forward and all this amazing footage shot by NASA itself. Things like
-they've hacked into government computers and found evidence of a coverup as well as airbrushed photos.
-Ex-NASA employees claiming they edit out all anomalous objects before releasing them to the media.
-NASA itself claiming that all of these unknown objects in orbit are KNOWN objects such as ice and space debris (which I have debated about to great
length in various threads.. primarily the sts-48 thread with the ATS guest credulity kills).
-All the astronauts that have come forward since the beginning of manned space flight claiming to have various types of encounters with unknown flying
objects in orbit near their spacecrafts.. including radio communications as proof that astronauts routinely refer to these objects as "UFO's" and
-These bizarre NASA-videotaped footage showing unknown objects suddenly appearing and disappearing in ultraviolet wavelengths of light.
-NASA footage which is all over the web of these worm-like objects moving around in space (there have been at least a dozen videos that I know of).
Not to mention the very same objects being videotaped from the ground of these worm-like objects flying in our atmosphere somehow.
-Anomalous objects routinely imaged by the SOHO heliospheric observatory as well as the anomalous photos shot by Cassini around Saturn.
-Don't even get me started on Mars..
-The fact that NASA now uses an encrypted radio communications downlink to discuss all things related to UFO's in orbit.
Just to name a few reasons we should question NASA's honestly, credibility, and overall motives..
It is obvious NASA knows much more than they are putting on. But NASA itself, funded by the federal government, is constantly having a shrinking
annual budget. They are so strapped for cash they are scrounging for any hardware and parts left over from decades of testing and research.
We have a space shuttle that is so horribly designed it has resulted in death and national catastrophe..
Not to mention the fact that our manned space missions have been non-existent except in earth orbit for nearly 40 years while our technological
advancement has skyrocketed since the apollo missions. Supposedly the onboard computer within the apollo spacecraft was similar to the computing
capacity of a calculator watch from what I understand.
NASA will not willingly release any of what it knows about UFO's because all such information is classified by the same government that pays for
their activities. That's why we have to hear bit by bit from people who come forward (and there have been many come forward claiming to have seen
UFO's of all types... Even from the very beginning of manned space flight in the U.S.).
To me it's obvious who has more credibility. Those who come clean vs those who will do anything to hide the truth. This is the very same reason i
believe sites like ATS are constantly monitored. But that's a completely different topic
. Don't want to go too far off topic here..
[edit on 2-6-2008 by BlasteR]