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There has got to be a way to somehow photograph from earth, the structures and other secrets on the moon that NASA has kept from the public for years.
Originally posted by zorgon
Originally posted by ngchunter hardly justification for our multimillion dollar grants.
Hardly the same thing at all... most observatories have public viewing nights...
Lick Observatory has 4 nights a year that you can pick the target with their 120 inch Shane telescope... You need an appointment for these sessions and its just a hard place for me to get to from Las Vegas...
Originally posted by Matrix1111
Hey JACK!!! What a joke. Proof of what? Photoshop? Reverse gaussian blur? LOL!!!
Originally posted by whipnet
NASA faking the moon landings? For real? We are still talking about this crap?
NASA engineers have gone on talk shows with the conspiracy clowns and made them look foolish.
What were the 10,000 mathematicians here in my home city of Houston calculating? How to fake a moon landings?
I thought we had moved passed this ignorance years ago.
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Originally posted by ngchunter
Originally posted by Matrix1111
Hey JACK!!! What a joke. Proof of what? Photoshop? Reverse gaussian blur? LOL!!!
Who is jack? Honestly, who is this in response to?
Originally posted by ngchunter
here then and do that, but don't try to waste astronomers time with telescopes that do not offer the public the chance to pick the target.
Most professional observatories do not provide that kind of opportunity with their largest scopes. I know because I've worked public viewings at a university's observatory.
I can promise you right now though that simple calculations show that it's impossible for a 120 inch scope to show you any of the apollo artifacts on the moon.
Originally posted by zorgon
Yes Sir Herr Commandant
You know I wrote the PUBLIC RELATIONS guy at Mt Palomar... so I wasn't wasting anyones time...
And I also have some awesome photos of the Moon from astronomers who did not think I was wasting their time... some I even paid licensing fees for them to use as prints... and I have a letter from a NASA employee that says its the best photo of the moon he has ever seen...
Now I wasn't looking for scope time at Palomar... merely to purchase copies of photos I had seen in old books credited to Mt Palomar... only to be told that none exist... I asked for the archive photos of the Moon taken by Lick... only to be sent by a very helpful lady at the Lick to the UCLA Santa Cruz facility where they were 're-cataloging the images... only to find the MOON images are not available
Well good for you and as you say MOST but SOME do So what are you a volunteer?
originally posted by: BlasteR
First off, Nasa does a good enough job at making themselves look foolish. They don't need anyone on talk shows to prove them wrong.
This "CRAP" just happens to have alot of evidence that should make even the most skeptical wonder what really happened. If you choose not to look at the facts being presented then so be it.
Sure, there is alot of hoaky "evidence" out there that is questionable and doesn't prove anything. But there IS some evidence that is pretty hard to refute. And, to a degree, no piece of solid evidence will ever convince anyone who is in denial and refuses to accept the facts because their minds are already made up.
So many people simply believe the spoon fed B.S. we were taught since grade school from teachers, from NASA, from the media. If they hear anything contrary to what they believe then they will always call it nonsense. If you are simply not willing to open yourself to the possibilities and consider what is being presented then you are living in your own self-created delusional construct that will forever keep you ignorant to the truth no matter what evidence there is.
That is true ignorance. Not being able to question what you believe to be fact when it may not be fact at all. Noone is telling you to think one way or another here. The point is to consider ALL the evidence and come to an EDUCATED conclusion based on that evidence. New evidence is always being presented. Please don't claim to know what really happened if you aren't even willing to look at the evidence or what it implies.
Skepticism is one thing, denial is another. Anyone who sais they know the answer to anything is only going on what they know. And sometimes people just don't know all the facts nor are they willing to consider any alternative than their own pre-judged conclusion.
-ChriS
originally posted by: moonwize
Uhhh......I am not just seeing rectangles n triangles. I have been studying the official Nasa photos for about 35 yrs. now. I have sketched a really beautiful
building in Tycho Crater and some other stuff there. It is pretty much a mess in the bottom of the crater.....And King Crater, I have sketched flying machines workiing and picking up stuff. One is flying out the side of the photo, which looks like it is dragging out what looks like a net, that has some strange looking fibers in it, if you can call it that. And a bunch of other stuff. Their air craft doesn't look anything like ours or not the ones working in the crater. Other strange machines that are probably mining. We might have something similiar. I just sketch what I see. These photos have been posted on ATS and no one mentioned seeing any of the stuff I see, so I just maybe one of your weirdies who can see what everyone else can not. When I sketch it out, only then can my family say...."I see it now!!!"I don't know how to do anything on a computer yet. One day I will be able to show you, but many of you do not have the EYE to see this stuff , you will only see rocks. Some of my family still can't. Women see it better than men.....so far.