I suppose I should have expected that no one would have been interested in a thread that shows positive interaction between two world powers, no matter the horrible image that both these countries have perpetuated for them throughout the world.

Chill dude/dudette. I've written many threads that were not even noticed. There are a lot of reasons, one of which is that a sunday night in North America, where the greater portion of ATS members live, is a slow time. Even the Robbie Williams thread has cooled down a bit.

Yes, these are good signs that China and the U S are being civil to each other. But sadly, politics is a game where getting along one day doesn't seem to mean much the next.

China wants to be all warm and fuzzy looking because they want the olympics to come off well, and the US always wants to look like the nice guy that's just misunderstood. So at this particular time and place, the two countries act buddy-buddy.

And I'm NOT talking about the citizens of those nations, but their leaders.

I was going to the same .. it is all political. Meanwhile, behind the curtains, the US and China are conducing Information Warfare strategies etc.

I'll feel better when and if there is a reduction in Nuclear weapons. The problem is, China has some pointed at us now and are bulding one helluva naval fleet with Agesis like destroyers and 094 class Nuclear Submarines.

All that hardware is meant more than just to intimidate, it is meant to be used if needs be. The US is the same. We are on a collision course unfortuantely.

Unless the value of the items we gave them is deducted from our trade deficit, this action is an unconstitutional waste of our money.

Yet again, our government wastes our money. Anyone surprised?

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Why don't we just all knit a huge quilt while were at it and display in the streets of DC for the world to see.

Those things aren't going to stop Nuclear weapons pointing at each other's nations. It's not going to stop Nuclear submarines, global reach and stealth warfare.

Before, it was Mutually Assured Destruction that kept the peace. Not the case now. You knock satellites out of the sky with lasers and you render the enemy blind. No more satellite guided missles.

I hate to be so pessemistic, but to get at the root of the problem requires much more.

It's good you're writing essays, but respect is earned by not submitting. There-in lies the problem. Neither country will submit.

The ignorance of certain people will drive someone not wanting to reply to make a post. What trade-deficit? How much profit was transfered back to the American Multinationals? I can continue "rant on and make brainless" comments like many in ATS is doing, but feel more it would be a waste of time.


To NGC/Jason,
Any support is welcome, and you will see great efforts by the Chinese leaders to reduce the increasing anti-Americanism in the Chinese society, ever since the anti-China propaganda was set on full speed. The Chinese media even ignored pretty much all anti-China news from similar posters like Slackerwire and trying to give the mourning Chinese people a feeling the whole world feel for us for the past week. I don't think this is because of the Olympics, it is because the Chinese leaders know very well how dangerous it is if a whole nation becomes xenophobic and isolate herself from the rest of the world.
There is most likely hope in Beijing that a "wild card" will be elected into office this year, so USA might change her almost a decade-old of Empirialistic foreign policies. If you get another Republican president like McCain, then you will see an acceleration of widening gap between the USA and the world.

[edit on 19/5/08 by IchiNiSan]

I agree that what you're doing is good. If it helps change some attitudes of new generations that would be great. However, there is heavy censorship by the Chinese government (not now before the Olympics though) and the US media spin machine. Both are coercive on a massive level based on interests of those in control. For the US, it is usually about money. For China, it is about hemogany. Both the US and China want a New World Order, but their views in managing are different. The US version has Corporations running everything (Corporate Facism). The Chinese version has it as Communism 101 (same as they have had for years, but modernized). In China's version, there are even fewer in control.

The quest for New World Order may cause WWIII between superpowers with Iran going rampid in the ME as an undercard.

To divert all this, would be to divert the NWO. There only two ways you can have a Utopia (and even for a limited time):

- Scenerio one: One superpower is successful and governs the NWO
This would only happen after a war, unfortunately

- Scenerio two: Invasion by Aliens to bring the world to a common goal

Unfortuantely, we all just can't get along. The more technology and the more religous battles puts the world into a state of complexity and self-serving interests more than any other time before.