California Supreme Court strikes down the state's ban on same-sex marriage as unconstitutional.

reply to post by pepsi78


pepsi.....if it were a choice, then you'd be able to make a choice to have carnal relations with a man, and you'd do it because you 'chose' to.

Or, your wife or girlfriend, same story.

But, of course, you see....you don't REALLY have a choice, do you?? Because you would never do such a think, it isn't your nature.

I could not possibly be sexually attracted to a woman...I don't like their sex organs, I don't like their bodies....nothing there 'turns me on'....in fact, I am somewhat repulsed! (Yes, I have seen 'nudie' magazines....I've seen both sides of the equation, and I respond to one side).

Are you getting it yet??

post script....I am constantly wondering why so many 'straight' men are aroused by woman-on-woman sex, in porn....tell me I'm wrong!

So you think it's right for gay people to parade in their underwear and to simulate anal sex in public? I can see the benefits and progres of the sociaty we live in, where there is no morals, no decency.Where people who chose their actions are protected under the umbrela of fake values.

Why should I chose where I walk? Maybe I'm crossing the street and there is a parade right there.

Pepsi, here is a quote from one of my previous posts on this thread, perhaps you missed it.

Actually, recent studies are NOT leaning your way.

Here, I think you might benefit from this article:

By altering a gene in the brain of a female worm, scientists were able to change its sexual orientation so that it was attracted to other females. Scientists activated the gene that makes male structures develop in the body, but only turned it on in the brain.

SRC: www.environmentalgraffiti.com...

And no, it's most likely not a choice, even though it could be to some people.

So your comparing worms with humans
You got the study directly pointed at homosexuality, it contains names of homosexual and lesiban researchers that come open and admit it's a choise.

reply to post by pepsi78


Worms? Humans?? Well, I've met a few humans who I thought were wormlike.....but the other poster was talking about GENETICS!!!!!!

Typical diversion tactic, on your part, pepsi......

Instead of learning, let's parrot the BS....and as to your last point.....a half-dozen proclaimed "ex-gays" are not a strong suit to hang your entire argument on!!

Most of the 'ex' gays I've seen....realized, after they'd been prostituted by these 'ex-gay' .... "ministries"... have denounced the hate-filled, nasty ideas being promoted.....

But, do your own research, biased as it is.....

reply to post by pepsi78


Yes. There is ABSOLUTELY no way this study could have ANYTHING that could possibly relate to humans and they're sexuality.

Let's just throw it out completely, shall we? I mean, it's ridiculous to think that, even though an animal can change it's sexual orientation by a twisted gene, that ANOTHER animal could have the possibility of that as well.

You know, I would've thought you could at least look at this logically, but apparently I was wrong. You'd rather let your prejudice blind you.

reply to post by weedwhacker

Furthermore, the maximum likelihood estimate for the mean incubation period for AIDS in homosexual men is 7.8 years (90% confidence interval ranging from 4.2 years to 15.0 years), which is close to the estimate of 8.2 years for adults developing transfusion-associated AIDS.

(err sorry lost the link)

Based on this data, no research has been done to account for direct infection from food service contact. The very long incubation period has never been thoroughly researched.

Spitting on a cop by and HIV infested felon resulted in assault with a deadly weapon...........why?

My knuckles once dragged the ground by I had the surgery done to I could walk upright. Also finally had that laser surgery done so I could stop shaving my back too..........

God says homosexuality is an abomination...........A real christian would not think otherwise.................

Gay marriage is a sign of the end times, see "sodom and pre-flood".........







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Oh....you speak to god!!! How incredible for you!!!!

helios....do you have any idea what SIV is?? No?? Well, to save yo uthe trouble (you can look it up for yourself) it is the 'Simian Immunodeficiency Virus'... it cropped up in our closest gentic relatives, the Chimpanzees.

The virus mutated, in Human bodies...it 'adapted' so to speak....that's what the 'god' you believe in designed, according to your twisted view of things!!

No....Nature is always adapting, always changing....mostly on the cellular level...as in, viruses and bacteria....you, helios, live in a 'macro' world and just cannot conceive of the incredible science that encompasses your day-to-day life.....you take it for granted!

Keep your nose deep in the 'bible'....and stay ignorant. The rest of us will pray for you.....

God - Oh My God - - oh wait Not My God.

Seriously - I do believe in a Creator of sorts. I do believe Jesus - Joseph Smith - and others were advanced beings - "prophets" - placed on earth to help man evolve spiritually in non physical ways.

However - to lose your brain to a mythical man-made creation justifying man-made fears - just blows my mind. No wonder they refer to them as a Flock of Sheep.

Creating any living being is an extremely intricate process. There are always going to be variations.

Those variations are NOT abominations - - they are just variations.

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by heliosprime

 

helios....do you have any idea what SIV is?? No?? Well, to save yo uthe trouble (you can look it up for yourself) it is the 'Simian Immunodeficiency Virus'... it cropped up in our closest gentic relatives, the Chimpanzees.

The virus mutated, in Human bodies...it 'adapted' so to speak....that's what the 'god' you believe in designed, according to your twisted view of things!!

No....Nature is always adapting, always changing....mostly on the cellular level...as in, viruses and bacteria....you, helios, live in a 'macro' world and just cannot conceive of the incredible science that encompasses your day-to-day life.....you take it for granted!

Keep your nose deep in the 'bible'....and stay ignorant. The rest of us will pray for you.....

Well there bubba.............ever heard of 'stanleyville" where the crossover "may" hav begun with Polio research. The vile death and use of who know how many chimp's blood to "grow" the vaccine then forced on local tribes in huge numbers. Or the term 'bushmeat"? perhaps also a source............

Science is no stranger to my bible...........Does not change the abomination that is homsexuality.............

Not sure who you pray too....................So no thanks..........

Originally posted by Annee

Those variations are NOT abominations - - they are just variations.

Homosexuality is an abomination before God...............deal with it.......

reply to post by heliosprime


Who says homosexuality is an abomination to God?

One line post. ooops

reply to post by Witness2008


God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lev 18:22

22Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Lev 20:13 my personal favorite.........

13If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

www.biblegateway.com...

reply to post by heliosprime


And just who was it that was speaking for God in the book of Leviticus?

Are you aware that men wrote the books of the Bible?

Originally posted by heliosprime
reply to post by Witness2008

 

God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lev 18:22

22Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Lev 20:13 my personal favorite.........

13If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

www.biblegateway.com...

King James said a lot of things were against God. But then again that was part of their whole control ideology, the more laws, the more people police themselves and don't actually think about the relevance of said laws...











[edit on 5/24/2008 by acegotflows]

reply to post by heliosprime



Ok. Do you advocate putting gays to death, and would you do it yourself? I just wanna know where you stand as far as how much you are willing to do what the Bible says.




[edit on 24-5-2008 by projectvxn]

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Yeah, there's a lot of crap in the OT. Nonsense about touching the skin of a pig, that should result in stoning to death...(good thing modern footballs are made of synthetic material, today). Let's see, wearing clothes of different cloths....adultery....working on the 'sabbath'....all capitol crimes, punishable by death.

Bible thumpers can beat on it all they want....but they like to pick and choose the page they wish to wave in their sanctimonious ways.

Intelligent people can see through the mumbo-jumbo antiquated mind-set of the ancient times....and the various biases of the writers.

Note to thumpers....the bible WAS NOT written in English....constantly translated, and transcribed (no printing presses, remember?)

Every time, re-interpreted, per the ruling authorities of the period.

Mysogonistic, power-hungry MEN....the OT is so full of sex and violence.

But, again, only see what you wish to see, and be judgemental....yup!! Very Christian trait, that!!!

[edit to soften the tone of the ending]




[edit on 5/24/0808 by weedwhacker]

reply to post by projectvxn


If, the procedure of the judgement in Lev is followed..........YES.........

Rem Matt 5:17,18

reply to post by weedwhacker



Thump, thump, thump..........judgement is coming................


Matt 5:17,18

17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

"his will be done"

The law of the OT is unchanged..........................

Thump, thump, thump,............

reply to post by heliosprime



Then you had better pray, very seriously, that your God is NOT an activist Judge!

Because if she is...