dAlen-
that is very impressive. i think you are right on almost every level actually, i loved your analysis of my question. we do indeed polarize our vision on this subject. To hitler he was right we were wrong, to usa we are right he was wrong. what people dont do when it comes to the holocaust and something like rwanda is say "hey the jews the tutsi they were both people" because we look at the holocaust with more of a disgust than any other genocide. Thats wrong a life is a life it doesnt matter if they are jewish, gay, black, nazi, american, its sad equally when an american dies as when a nazi dies. we are all people and we shouldnt say we will never forget then turn our heads away when rwanda happens or when sudan happens.

Devilock-
hitler started a world war and killed millions of people. stalin also killed millions of people. mao killed people, hu kills people, bush kills people. Its not that he started a world war that im upset we only hear about him, though that isnt really a valid point to make I think a british person posted in here and said when he was in school he learned about all of the bad guys not just hitler, im upset because by teaching the holocaust to death we are putting the lives lost in the holocaust over the lives lost to stalin, or to mao, or hu. its ridiculous to put one life over another.

Sonya610-
Thats true but he was a nut to those who didnt agree with him. to those that loved him he was a genius.

wayno-
YES! if we taught about the whole lot of bad guys there is then people would know "you know what he has alot of beliefs mao had i dont want to vote for him".

Compared to Mao and Stalin, Hitler wasn't that bad, but when your talking about tyrants of this magnitude, comparisons are meaningless.

Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot, Idi Amin and Jim Jones were all tyrants who mass-murdered innocent victims. They are all bad and we shouldn't waste too much time concerning ourselves with who was worse.

Evil is what it is.

Originally posted by jbondo
The majority of the German people stood behind him and even helped to put Jews into work/death camps often turning Jews in or just plain doing street exterminations via stoning, etc...The extreme hatred frenzy he worked the German people into against the Jews was just unreal.

His war wasn't bad enough as he ordered death marches knowing he was going to be defeated. Trying to eliminate witnesses to his and "his people's atrocities was one of the final acts of his reign.

When you think of Genocide you think of Hilter. Just go to Germany now and ask around but don't be surprised if you end up in jail as the shame is still paramount on the minds of the German people.

I know Jews that have gone thru this. They tell me stories of running away as small children while planes flew overhead strafing them with gunfire. Starving in the middle of winter with no firewood, some even resorting to cannibalism to stay alive. Watching as their mothers are torn from them and then being sent to child labor camps.

Arguing over who is the worse mass murderer is not an argument anyone will win. In fact, it's not worth the argument as death, torture, pain and anguish are the only result.

Agreed.I might like to add that Hitler build the autobahn not with the citizens of germany in mind but for his military.He knew Germany was at risk of a two front war so made sure she had the network of highways and rail set up just so the military can move quickly form one front to another.In addition in the waning years of WW2 rail lines ,which were badly needed for the army, was mobilized to accelerate the Holocaust and given priority over army mobility.This is where the true evil of Hitler and the National socialist party show their true colors.

Judging from the hate websites on the internet,that ideology has survived to this day.The same year Hitler came to power 1933 ,did the holocaust begin with absurd laws targeting jews as they were seen at first as the reason for german defeat in WW1.Here we had a leader of a people who were supposedly well educated but were completely duped and tricked into a war and dictatorship.Hitler said that its a good thing that masses do not think!Theres a reason he said that.People of Germany were not thinking in 1933.They werent thinking when he scooped up slovakia or austria.And they bought the story of how the Poles attacked them first.

Then on his dying day he blamed germans for the loss of WW2.So a leader begins persecuting a culture based on conspiracy and lies,fools the general people with some conspiracies about jews dating back to Roman times,and starts a war to justify it all.What we got here is a leader not willing to accept responsibility for what hes done.An all to common occurance nowadays in our world.

So to answer the OP yes he was that bad and way worse.I will not let this rest and make sure each new generation knows about this particular dictator.

Researching Hitlers view of "Germania" will show you alot of what his intentions were.

Hitler had the right idea to rid the world of the lie of Christianity but he went about it totally the wrong way.

And yeah, i'm sure that statement is gonna outrage people but why don't you do some research on christianity being a lie created by the jews to control the non jewish before you stone me for my statement.

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It was his duty to fulfill the prophecy, and by his actions, he fulfilled them. Without him Israel would have never existed.

of course he was.


we whent to war with hitler and germany.

and thus we used journalizm to mkake him stand out.

yes most people bang on him.



and thats because they dont know about the others.

an other popular war criminal is gangas kong. ( i think thats how u spell it.)


he was bad too.
hitlers army has done bad things.
it doesnt mean they are bad.

hitler brainwashed them to make it seem like it was a good thing to exterminate the obnormal.


in their eyes they were doing heroic deeds.

they soon learned they were doing evil when they saw the jewish screaming.

its sad. but it was done.

hitler was an insane man.
look at his life.
he was a corupt child because the jews treated him bad.


now look at a lunitic thats locked up.
he had a bad child hood too.

the jewish have pissed hitler off by taking his education.
and they acted better than him.

he wanted to get revenge.
so he used them as a scape goat.
he blamed them for poisioning his blood line.
and so on and so forth.

he soon believed that the jewish have poisioned his blood. and that they are evil.

thus he sperad it to his own people as if it was the truth.

so dont hate the nazis. dont hate germany.

hitler was a very ill man.

and hes not the only one.

Don't forget Pol Pot leader of Cambodia who killed 1.7 to 2.5 million people, who were educated, who wore glasses, to make the country to go back to "year zero,"(send all workers back to fields) and lets not forget this all happened in the 70's and he basically got away with out.
As for Hitler, if I couldn't get a job, even with years of experience, a degree, and all jobs went to illegal immigrants(Or a minority "Jews" now called the "Rich"). Hitler promised how you would get your job back, or one that is in your field of study; I would vote for him. He just wanted to make a society,where everyone had decent job. Let's not forget how poor the economy was In Germany when he took over, and how he turned that around so fast. Also most Germans didn't agree with the Treaty of Versailles, which blamed Germany for WWI, and disallowed Germany from having its own army, which Hitler obviously objected and swore to overturn the Treaty which he did. Hitler also created a magnificent schooling system, which he did, also made the infrastructure in Germany as one of the best in the world So I think I might have voted for him then. then his sadistic thoughts came to be. But this is all about voitng him in as the Kaiser.