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reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 03:28 PM by caballero
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dAlen-
that is very impressive. i think you are right on almost every level actually, i loved your analysis of my question. we do indeed polarize our vision
on this subject. To hitler he was right we were wrong, to usa we are right he was wrong. what people dont do when it comes to the holocaust and
something like rwanda is say "hey the jews the tutsi they were both people" because we look at the holocaust with more of a disgust than any other
genocide. Thats wrong a life is a life it doesnt matter if they are jewish, gay, black, nazi, american, its sad equally when an american dies as when
a nazi dies. we are all people and we shouldnt say we will never forget then turn our heads away when rwanda happens or when sudan happens.
Devilock-
hitler started a world war and killed millions of people. stalin also killed millions of people. mao killed people, hu kills people, bush kills
people. Its not that he started a world war that im upset we only hear about him, though that isnt really a valid point to make I think a british
person posted in here and said when he was in school he learned about all of the bad guys not just hitler, im upset because by teaching the holocaust
to death we are putting the lives lost in the holocaust over the lives lost to stalin, or to mao, or hu. its ridiculous to put one life over
another.
Sonya610-
Thats true but he was a nut to those who didnt agree with him. to those that loved him he was a genius.
wayno-
YES! if we taught about the whole lot of bad guys there is then people would know "you know what he has alot of beliefs mao had i dont want to vote
for him".
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reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 04:50 PM by GradyPhilpott
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Compared to Mao and Stalin, Hitler wasn't that bad, but when your talking about tyrants of this magnitude, comparisons are meaningless.
Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot, Idi Amin and Jim Jones were all tyrants who mass-murdered innocent victims. They are all bad and we shouldn't waste
too much time concerning ourselves with who was worse.
Evil is what it is.
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reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 07:23 PM by Justice11
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Originally posted by jbondo
The majority of the German people stood behind him and even helped to put Jews into work/death camps often turning Jews in or just plain doing street
exterminations via stoning, etc...The extreme hatred frenzy he worked the German people into against the Jews was just unreal.
His war wasn't bad enough as he ordered death marches knowing he was going to be defeated. Trying to eliminate witnesses to his and "his people's
atrocities was one of the final acts of his reign.
When you think of Genocide you think of Hilter. Just go to Germany now and ask around but don't be surprised if you end up in jail as the shame is
still paramount on the minds of the German people.
I know Jews that have gone thru this. They tell me stories of running away as small children while planes flew overhead strafing them with gunfire.
Starving in the middle of winter with no firewood, some even resorting to cannibalism to stay alive. Watching as their mothers are torn from them and
then being sent to child labor camps.
Arguing over who is the worse mass murderer is not an argument anyone will win. In fact, it's not worth the argument as death, torture, pain and
anguish are the only result. 
Agreed.I might like to add that Hitler build the autobahn not with the citizens of germany in mind but for his military.He knew Germany was at risk
of a two front war so made sure she had the network of highways and rail set up just so the military can move quickly form one front to another.In
addition in the waning years of WW2 rail lines ,which were badly needed for the army, was mobilized to accelerate the Holocaust and given priority
over army mobility.This is where the true evil of Hitler and the National socialist party show their true colors.
Judging from the hate websites on the internet,that ideology has survived to this day.The same year Hitler came to power 1933 ,did the holocaust begin
with absurd laws targeting jews as they were seen at first as the reason for german defeat in WW1.Here we had a leader of a people who were supposedly
well educated but were completely duped and tricked into a war and dictatorship.Hitler said that its a good thing that masses do not think!Theres a
reason he said that.People of Germany were not thinking in 1933.They werent thinking when he scooped up slovakia or austria.And they bought the story
of how the Poles attacked them first.
Then on his dying day he blamed germans for the loss of WW2.So a leader begins persecuting a culture based on conspiracy and lies,fools the general
people with some conspiracies about jews dating back to Roman times,and starts a war to justify it all.What we got here is a leader not willing to
accept responsibility for what hes done.An all to common occurance nowadays in our world.
So to answer the OP yes he was that bad and way worse.I will not let this rest and make sure each new generation knows about this particular dictator.
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reply posted on 21-5-2008 @ 02:52 AM by topsecretombomb
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Researching Hitlers view of "Germania" will show you alot of what his intentions were.
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reply posted on 21-5-2008 @ 03:28 AM by Mad_Hatter
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Hitler had the right idea to rid the world of the lie of Christianity but he went about it totally the wrong way.
And yeah, i'm sure that statement is gonna outrage people but why don't you do some research on christianity being a lie created by the jews to
control the non jewish before you stone me for my statement.
[edit on 5/21/2008 by Mad_Hatter]
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reply posted on 22-5-2008 @ 11:00 PM by caballero
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he wanted to rid the world of more than just christianity. and if were a choice of how he was to rid the world of christianity then i would rather
have it the way he did it rather than a "brave new world" scenario where you have no clue that youre being controlled or need to fight back. With
hitler everyone knew the danger.
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reply posted on 26-5-2008 @ 10:37 PM by Erastis07
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It was his duty to fulfill the prophecy, and by his actions, he fulfilled them. Without him Israel would have never existed.
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reply posted on 28-5-2008 @ 10:38 AM by caballero
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calm down friendo, i have said yes hitler was bad but there have been just as bad people to walk the earth. NEVER did i say "hey lets all forget
about hitler".
Dont use his manipulation of the people to say he was evil. We are manipulated on a daily basis as well with news with REALITY TV! with everything we
are being manipulated to pay no attention to the big issues. Its the truth! Turn on your news tonight o right now watch the news channel and tell me
that at least 70% of the stories on there are non sense that doesnt deserve being called news.
Every government manipulates their people for a very good reason WE DONT THINK we listen and agree and we never think about whats really being said,
like in our presidential debates how artfully the candidates can divert our attention from the question they were just asked and go off on their own
little tangent.
So you cant say hitler was bad because Bush, Clinton, Obama all play off of our lazyness and our ignorance.
On a side note i was talking to one of my friends and she brought up a very good point, since it was our fault that Hitler did what he did thats why
we dont let our nation forget about what we have done. All the other leaders around the world stalin being one wasnt under our control Hitler was.
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reply posted on 28-5-2008 @ 11:02 AM by LuLuLenin
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I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the
Lord.."
Right from "Mein Kampf". Hitler also attended to the Catholic church. You're so painfully ignorant it's disturbing.
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reply posted on 28-5-2008 @ 11:08 AM by caballero
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But you forget that hitler after words burnt the bible.
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reply posted on 28-5-2008 @ 11:10 AM by LuLuLenin
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Citation?
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reply posted on 31-5-2008 @ 12:06 PM by caballero
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Ok so here is the thing every tv documentry I have ever seen on Hitler has said that Hitler was against religion, BUT, you were correct (only half
correct actually) Hitler did believe in the bibles God but very seldom did he go to church to practice the churches practice of religion. So he was
very religious, but did not go to church.
 Many American books, television documentaries, and Sunday sermons that preach of Hitler's "evil" have eliminated Hitler's god for their
Christian audiences, but one only has to read from his own writings to appreciate that Hitler's God equals the same God of the Christian
Bible.
So i was using some pretty ignorant information when i should have researched a little bit.
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reply posted on 4-6-2008 @ 02:54 PM by Mad_Hatter
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Thanks caballero. Thumbs gettin tired here.
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reply posted on 4-6-2008 @ 06:17 PM by caballero
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Ahaha sorry?
Now dont get me wrong when i said he believed in the bibles god he did but he was against the churches version of that god because many forms of
christianity change the religion to fit their strange views (mormons). So it could be what you've said hatter because the churches god is different
from the god that I have seen in the bible.
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reply posted on 16-6-2008 @ 04:13 PM by ebonflame
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of course he was.
we whent to war with hitler and germany.
and thus we used journalizm to mkake him stand out.
yes most people bang on him.
and thats because they dont know about the others.
an other popular war criminal is gangas kong. ( i think thats how u spell it.)
he was bad too.
hitlers army has done bad things.
it doesnt mean they are bad.
hitler brainwashed them to make it seem like it was a good thing to exterminate the obnormal.
in their eyes they were doing heroic deeds.
they soon learned they were doing evil when they saw the jewish screaming.
its sad. but it was done.
hitler was an insane man.
look at his life.
he was a corupt child because the jews treated him bad.
now look at a lunitic thats locked up.
he had a bad child hood too.
the jewish have pissed hitler off by taking his education.
and they acted better than him.
he wanted to get revenge.
so he used them as a scape goat.
he blamed them for poisioning his blood line.
and so on and so forth.
he soon believed that the jewish have poisioned his blood. and that they are evil.
thus he sperad it to his own people as if it was the truth.
so dont hate the nazis. dont hate germany.
hitler was a very ill man.
and hes not the only one.
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