You're missing a lot of what all the Nazis did.

I suggest you check out some more of the Nazi history and how twisted it really was before just putting him in the same level, or higher than one of these other monstrous tyrants.

Hitler (and Himmler) was head and shoulders above just about anyone, as far as sadistic, torturous, murderous lunatics.

Mao Tse Tung and Stalin were pretty bad too.

You mean like this guy?



Sorry, couldn't help myself...

Yes, Hitler was so bad. I agree he does get the limelight over other equally evil men, but such is the way of history.

I'm sorry but this is one of the most uneducated and irrelevant rants I've read in awhile.

stalin-
20 million from famine, executions, and other such things all attributable to stalins rule.

Mao tse tung-
torture victims had red hot gun rods jammed into their anuses

hu jintao-
has stopped all resolutions on sudan from ever passing to protect assests to china while over 400,000 have died in sudan. china backs the sudanese gov't that backs the janjaweed which is the militia thats killing everyone.

Saddam Hussein-
used chemical weapons on kurdish communities.

and many many more. you cannot sit here and tell me hitler was the only guy who did some really cruel stuff? to do so is absurd i mean tons of leaders around the world are meaner than hitler. one guy(i forget who) boiled people to death, BOILED! so why is it that hitler is the only one we hear about ever?

Originally posted by AztecSpiritual
I'm sorry but this is one of the most uneducated and irrelevant rants I've read in awhile.

why is that? give me some reason behind your statement.
In no way am i defending hitler so dont get all pissy about that cause i hate the guy as much as you but i also hate other guys we never hear about as if they were being ignored. WHY IS THAT? thats what i want to know

They are all evil. Are you saying that one evil person is "eviler" than the other so that person should receive more attention? They all massacred, tortured, and did terrible things but they are ALL known for it.

Hitler was still one of the worst human beings to ever live.

no im saying people have been the same as hitler. and if you are going to call my opinion ignorant back it up with something worth calling an opinion wrong.

After all, Hitler started a pretty damn big fight if you hadn't noticed.

and stalin killed 20 million of his own people but in my history books he was the ally of america in WWII and wanted more of germany than he desearved after WWII. nothing even mentioned of what kind of mass murderer he was.

The only reason that other fascist leaderships aren't brought up so often is because they aren't as aggressive in terms of international interests.

international interests? how about sudan, who is the victim of international interests after all? i havent heard much about chinas heavy involvment with the exception of one magazine.



and what about the fact we didnt even try stopping hitler from his rise to power until he got too much power and we got scared? we put up sanction after sanction after sanction and watched him disobey those sanctions. the only reason it got as big as it did was because we did not act appropriatley to his rise to power. To whom ever said that he was a satanist and in that same post told me to read up on nazi history, Hitler ridiculed paganism, ocultism, and other such beliefs in his book mein kampf. Dont tell me im ignorant and then pop off with crap like that.

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Originally posted by caballero

1) no im saying people have been the same as hitler. and if you are going to call my opinion ignorant back it up with something worth calling an opinion wrong.


2) and stalin killed 20 million of his own people but in my history books he was the ally of america in WWII and wanted more of germany than he desearved after WWII. nothing even mentioned of what kind of mass murderer he was.

3) international interests? how about sudan, who is the victim of international interests after all? i havent heard much about chinas heavy involvment with the exception of one magazine.

4) and what about the fact we didnt even try stopping hitler from his rise to power until he got too much power and we got scared? we put up sanction after sanction after sanction and watched him disobey those sanctions. the only reason it got as big as it did was because we did not act appropriatley to his rise to power.

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And so the dissection begins.



1) no im saying people have been the same as hitler. and if you are going to call my opinion ignorant back it up with something worth calling an opinion wrong.

If you're saying that people have been the same as hitler, you're not really saying very much are you?

I thought you were saying that there were individuals who were worse than hitler, but i see i was wrong in that judgement.

2) Stop reading history books and think for yourself, then.

If you don't agree with what you find in the books, then say so - don't skip about the point like a damn kangaroo.

3) Well, you could blame the MSM for that, couldn't you?

4) They did try - they tried doing things peacefully.

You made a counter point and then contradicted yourself in the very same statement.

I think a lot of the problem of hitler's unopposed rise to power was the fact that the people didn't want another war, having just gotten over the last WORLD war.

And of course, nowadays we have problems like Corporate America, whom don't like the idea of the political establishment picking fights with people all willy-nilly because of the fact that they'd have to tighten the purse-strings in order to go ahead and do it.

The corporations are a blight on society in more ways than one, you don't need to be educated to realise that - just smart.

But seriously, if you think that people in history have not been evaluated properly as the war-mongering blood crazed tyrants that they are, then just say so.

When you start saying things like "Oh, People always seem to think Hitler was the classic Fascist Oppressor" you're bound to get a contradiction or two, and it's probably because even though 60 years have passed, the memory of that war is still fresh in our generational memory.

You can't blame people for it.

Mao Tse Tung and Stalin (both of whom were supported at different times by US/GB) where in a different league to Hitler and their death tolls pales the Hitler’s death camps by 10’s of millions. A good book to look at is MAO The Unknown Story by Jung Chang and Jon Halliday. No doubt it will get bad press as it dares to show the involvement and manipulation of the West namely US/GB/USSR to further their own ends.

As far as I’m concerned Hitler was an evil world player but no worse that those of his peers then or now, if you look at the current day world legacy of those that ‘defeated’ this tyrant (take one example Israel / Palestine) and look at the number of wars that the US/GB have created/been involved with and tot up the innocent victims (saw a war time statistic a while ago that shows that in WW1 the Civilian deaths accounted for around 10% of all deaths, this figure has steadily got worse and worse to the point that now 90% of all deaths in war are civilians – I’ll see can I dig it up?) , then I believe its clear to see who the evil ones are?

And don't forget Pol Pot.

Hitler is the accepted "personification of evil", as it were, because he not only was responsible for the murder of millions of innocents but he did it by crossing borders with a militarism not seen since Napoleon or even earlier.

"Was Hitler so bad?" You must be joking.

And comparing George W. Bush to Adolph Hitler is ridiculous.