To WEEDWACKER

Seeing as you know it all, why do you think the FBI took the video footage of the service station (smoking gun) and other cameras in the area surely showing once and for all a plane did hit the pentacon?

I mean you do believe a plane hit the pentagon no? Would it not seem suspect to withold vital video proof of this happening?

Love to hear your answer, thankyou.

Love to ALL

watchZEITGEISTnow

[edit on 14-5-2008 by watchZEITGEISTnow]

Originally posted by watchZEITGEISTnow
To WEEDWACKER

Seeing as you know it all, why do you think the FBI took the video footage of the service station (smoking gun) and other cameras in the area surely showing once and for all a plane did hit the pentacon?

I mean you do believe a plane hit the pentagon no? Would it not seem suspect to withold vital video proof of this happening?

Love to hear your answer, thankyou.

Love to ALL



watchZEITGEISTnow

[edit on 14-5-2008 by watchZEITGEISTnow]

ZEIT.....you resort to a common tactic....very sad to see....

You attack me, because I have an opinion, and I DARE to offer it, by claiming, insultingly, that I must 'know all'!!!!

AND, to further indicate your lousy sense of timing, you attempt to deflect to a discussion (I'm assuming, since you didn't reference it directly) the AAL 77 airlplane that hit the Pentagon....when I was CLEARLY only talking about, in MY post, the WTC Towers.

So, instead of hiding behind veiled insults and deflection, try arguing your case from the standpoint of an educated adult.

WW

Just want to say I don't know the truth. I don't think I, or we, ever will... But I just want to throw this quote into the mix. What do you think?


"It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any outcropping of what is now called 'a conspiracy theory of history.' For a search for 'conspiracies,' as misguided as the results often are, means a search for motives, and an attribution of individual responsibility for the historical misdeeds of ruling elites. If, however, any tyranny or venality, or aggressive war imposed by the State was brought about not by particular State rulers but by mysterious and arcane 'social forces,' or by the imperfect 'state of the world' -- or if, in some way, everyone was guilty -- then there is no point in anyone's becoming indignant or rising up against such misdeeds.

Furthermore, a discrediting of 'conspiracy theories' will make the subjects more likely to believe the 'general welfare' reasons that are invariably put forth by the modern State for engaging in aggressive actions."
~Murray N. Rothbard (1926-1995) Dean of the Austrian School of Economics

Does it at least make you think a bit?

Just a note on the video issue. ATTENTION::: I AM NOT, REPEAT NOT, taking a side.

I just have a lot of experience in my profession, over the last 22 or so years, in pulling, examining, recording and presenting surveillance video.

Here are my points.

1. Videos I have pulled for evidence, are NEVER made public by me or any other Law Enforcement Agency I have worked with. If the owner of the video wishes to make it public, they have ever right to do so after the video is returned. In a Felon case, this can be as much as 5 to 10 years. They are kept in evidence until all appeals are finished. In a case like 9/11, who knows how long they will be kept.

2. The average video surveillance for Gas Stations, Convenience Stores and the like, SUCK, to put it mildly. I generally am happy of the video shows me the Race and Sex of the subject. In the hundreds of videos I have pulled and worked, only maybe, a few dozen have ever been good enough for identity purposes. That is a terrible statistics, but real life my friends. Now consider that most such videos are used to protect the establishment, and not the surrounding buildings and definitely not the sky, you have all the makings of questionable video at best.

3. Remember the old adage in video. Crap in Crap out.
Now that DVR's are becoming a lot more common, the video I have been pulling recently is much better. But still the majority of people use VCR systems and trust me, they rarely change the tape or buy new ones. Ever record over a VCR tape a few times? Try it and you will see a MASSIVE degradation in quality.

4. Also consider this.

Why would the FBI/NSA or whatever alphabet organization release the tapes?

Some of you sound like that is their job, to placate the general public. It is not. It is their job to determine the truth and report that to the agency heads they work for.

Many, many times I have had the media screaming to have me show them my evidence. Not gonna happen. First and foremost, their curiosity is not my concern, the case is. Second, the viewing of the tape by the general public completely sullies the presentation of the tape as evidence if and when the case goes to trial.

The simple fact is this.

Until EVERYONE involved is captured and prosecuted and all appeals exhausted, they can NOT and should not release the tapes just to satisfy curiosity. I hate to put it that way, but in reality your desire to see all the evidence is nothing but curiosity. If you do see it, there will still be nothing that you can contribute to help the case; it will do nothing except either satisfy that curiosity or stimulate more controversy...

Just some information folks....

Semper

Just reading some of the posts in this forum, one can easily see two very distinct sides, yet is either side really interested in the truth?

Just a question here..

Does not a REAL seeker of truth, have a completely open mind without preconception or stolid opinion?

Some of you have made up your minds that a conspiracy exists and you do everything in your power to prove it. Are you seeking the truth? Nope.

Some of you are convinced that no conspiracy exists and you also do everything within your power to prove no conspiracy exists. Are you seeking the truth? Nope

Just look here...

My question is why did they take it and NOT show it?

This is a perfect example of either denial, or just not reading the thread. I explained in detail why the authorities would take a tape and also why they would not show it, yet the poster asks the question anyway. Is this seeking the truth?

Remember what Albert Einstein said:

"Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods."

When I start a criminal investigation, I absolutely MUST not have any preconceptions as to the outcome, or I have failed before I started. My mind must be open to any and all possibilities or I will NEVER be able to see the truth even if I find it.

This perhaps expresses it best...

Andre Gide:

"Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it."

Without being open to the very real possibility that what you WANT to find, may not be the truth, you will never be able to find the truth.

Semper