posted on May, 8 2008 @ 07:03 AM
reply to post by Jazzyguy
I confess you that it's hard to find informations about this case.
Page ID (PID) NARA-PBB1-356
Collection National Archives (NARA)
Roll Description NARA Blue Book Roll 1
Document Code T1206-1
Project Blue Book - Relevant file
Page ID (PID) NARA-PBB94-810
Collection National Archives (NARA)
Roll Description NARA Blue Book Roll 94
Document Code T1206-94
As you can see, the first page of the report reads 17 photos
well, believe it or not, in no one of the scans is visible something, they all look like this one:
Seventeen pages of nothing
Regarding this issue, i've found this document:
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 14:40:58 +0000 (GMT)
From: Francis Ridge, firstname.lastname@example.org
Subject: Recent Research Into Edwards Incident; Oct 7, 1965
To: CE, SHG, NCP
A search for anything regarding the October 7, 1965 incident at Edwards turned up two items:
1) NARA-PBB1-356 - A listing on a sighting page at Blue Book. Listed as "visual" and "radar". Note "separate folder" and all the explanations,
none of which "fly" based on what we hear on the audiotapes.
2) NARA-PBB94 810-828 - Cover page, "File 10021, Oct. 7, 1965, Edwards AFB, 17 photos", and 17 pages of "photos".
Both items are inserted below, for the record.
I then suggested to William Wise of the Project Blue Book Archive that we jump ahead to 1965 and try to locate further documents on this incident. He
"I have no problem with jumping ahead to the relevant 1965 roll. Do you mean NARA roll or NARA-Maxwell roll? I'm not sure what would be required
to finance this beyond purchasing the relevant NARA roll. Jan would probably be willing to lend us his roll but it might be better yet to try the
NARA-Maxwell roll instead. For around $100.00 per roll we can have the roll scanned by a service bureau but the results I've been able to acquire
thus far via this method, although acceptable, have been less than optimal."
Perhaps there's a way to get better scans
Here you can find the real audio recordings obtained through the freedom of information act.
UFO's Over Edwards Air Force Base - Audio file
They should be also already covered in the videos of the OP, but i'm not sure.
UFO Alert at Edwards Air Force Base, California - October 7, 1965
By Nuclear Connection Project
Report / RADAR
Up to twelve luminous UFOs flew over this secure test facility and the region, and at least one F-106A interceptor was scrambled from George AFB at
Victorville. All of this action was captured on classified U.S. Air Force audio tapes which have now been declassified and are available to the public
along with official documentation.The question in my mind is, what was going on during those 3-4 hours we don't know about? If we were allowed to
hear only 6 hours of 40, and read only 17 pages of hard-to-read documents, what is it we were NOT allowed to hear and see? The documents we have make
it clear that by the time Alpha Lima Zero One was scrambled at at 1209Z or 5:09 PM PDT, "the activity was just about over."
Major Struble from an outfit known as LAADS (Los Angeles Air Defense Sector), a division of ARADCOM (Army Air Defense Command) authorized the making
of these recordings of voice transmissions made by military personnel to and from Edwards Air Force Base- from base to base communications, phone
patches, ground to air radio & tower to air radio. These recordings archived the conversations which documented this event of UFO visitation of a
highly secure military base. The audio recordings were made on an extra track of large reels of radar data tapes, which were running all the time in
the case of an accident and the need to review the radar tracks.
The event at Edwards Air Force Base took place over about a five hour period and since the voice recordings were made from at least 8 positions,
approximately 40 hours of audio recordings had to have been made. Out of the possible 40 hours of these tape recordings only 6 hours were declassified
by the Department of the Air Force.
Darryl Clark, Capt. 329th Fighter Interceptor Squadron (FIS), George AFB, Calif., was an alert pilot with Detachment.1 at Edwards AFB. He happened to
be on duty this evening and was called upon to observe the activity. His observations were all made from the ground. Captain Clark was one of the
important Alert Pilots at Edwards Air Force Base on the night of October 7, 1965. He was entrusted with flying one of the Hot Birds, as planes loaded
with Nuclear Weapons were called, that protected the western part of the United States. Skilled at target identification, Captain Clark is heard on
the original Air Force recordings describing his UFO sighting of that night. (See Darryl Clark actual statement below)
That evening, October 7 (and the following one, October 8), 1965, some 700 engineers and scientists attended the Fourth X-15 Technical Conference at
the (then) NASA Flight Research Center at Edwards AFB. This dealt with the research results of the 150 some X-15 flights made since 1959.
(Astronautics and Aeronautics 1965 NASA SP-4006, page 464 - Joel Carpenter)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:50:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brad Sparks
Subject: Edwards AFB Encounter & Radar, Oct. 1965
There were a number of radars at each site, generally a search radar and a height-finder radar, and it is not always clear which ones were actually in
Furthermore there were quite possibly FAA radar, AF air defense radars, and AF air traffic control radar all involved. Edwards AFB Tower had at least
one air traffic radar, a RAPCON (radar approach control).
The Blue Book docs indicate the radar scope photos were taken by San Pedro because San Pedro declares the Track Numbers and talks about scope
San Pedro was the 670th ACW Squadron (later the 670th Radar Squadron) at Fort MacArthur, CA at:
Latitude: 33-44-46 N, Longitude: 118-20-10 W
However, San Pedro in 1965 operated both an FAA ARSR-1C search radar, an AF FPS-27 frequency diversity S-band SAGE search radar (150,000 ft and 220
nmi range), and two AF height-finders FPS-90 (modified FPS-6B) S-band height-finder and FPS-26A frequency diversity C-band SAGE height-finder.
Boron AF Station 750th AC&W Squadron was at Edwards AFB at the NE corner of the Edwards reservation.
Boron AFS, CA, was at:
Latitude: 35-04-44 N, Longitude: 117-34-45 W
Boron in 1965 was a joint-use FAA/ADC radar site, and had an FPS-35 frequency diversity SAGE search radar, an FPS-26A height-finder, an FPS-90
height-finder and possibly still an older FPS-6A height-finder.
Captain Clark's Sighting, The Edwards AFB Encounter, Nuclear Weapons
The Edward's AFB encounter of October 7, 1965 is graphically described on authenticated Air Force radar tapes. One of the witnesses on that tape was
Captain Darryl Clark.
Download audio here (.mp3)
The transcription and the actual document, followed by the retyped version can be found here: