Exerpt from Interview with Historian Carroll Quigley, 1974:
"...because there's a group of people who were using this book, and they're total nuts.
I get letters from them all the time.
I could show you some of them if you want, complete nuts
, who claim that this is a Jewish conspiracy, that it's part of the same thing as the
Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which we now know is a czarist Russian police forgery of nineteen five, and this is the same thing as the Illuminati,
and the Illuminati were founded in 1776 by a Bavarian named, I think its Weiskopf [Weishaupt].
And that the Illuminati are a branch of the masons, and they took over the masons, you see, and the whole thing is a nightmare.
That all secret societies are the same secret society.
Now this was established by nuts for hundreds of years.
There were people who said the Society of Cincinnati in the American revolution, of which George Washington was one of the shining lights, was a
branch of the Illuminati.
And was a secret society, and therefore that's why the masons built the monument in Alexandria to Washington. Not because he was the first President
of the United States, because he was the mason and the head of the Illuminati in this country and therefore was one of the founders of the Society of
Do you see what I mean? And it becomes - you can't believe it. Now these same conspirators, the Jacobins who made the French Revolution, a woman
named Nesta, N-E-S-T-A, Webster wrote that book. To refute it, my tutor, who's a Rhodes Scholar, Crane Branton, B-R-A-N-T-O-N, wrote his Doctoral
dissertation called the The Jacobins in which he refutes her. Do you see?
Now, I think at the end of his life, Branton probably came to feel that he was wrong.
That there was some secret society involved in the Jacobins.
And a student of his named Elizabeth Eisenstein, who's a marvelous researcher. She's now a professor at American University, under Branton wrote a
doctoral dissertation on the founder of the Babeuf Conspiracy.
The Babeuf [Babouviste] conspiracy was a conspiracy of the extreme left, which burst out, in France, in 1894 [sic, 1794] or so, led by a man named
Babeuf who was executed for it.
But the man behind it was a descendent of Michelangelo named Buonarotti, because Michelangelo's family name was Buonarotti. Look if you can at
Eisentein's book, which was published by Harvard, a doctoral dissertation which shows Buonarotti founded many secret societies, do you see? One of
them was the babeuf people who are now being praised to the skies by all the neo-marxists, like Marcos [sp?], and others you see, as the great heros,
because they tried to change the French Revolution from a middle class, bourgeois, capitalist revolution, constitutional revolution, into a communist
Now Buonarotti is also the founder of the Carbonari, of which Mazzini was the head, in the 1840's, which united Italy in the 1860's. Do you see? So
as if you start with Buonarotti, which as far as I can see is 1893 I mean 1793, 1794, I think you can trace a connection down through these various
secret societies which culminate in the Mazzini Carbinari.
For an example, I'll take one thing. Italy was able to get free from Austria because, only because France defeated Austria. Why did France do that?
Nobody could see why. It wasn't in France's interest. And yet France declared war in 1859 on Austria. And at the battle of Magenta Sol fra [?]
Reno[?] defeated and suddenly made a peace treaty without freeing all of Italy, and the reason we are told they suddenly made the peace treaty without
was because the King, the Emperor, this is Napoleon the third, was so sickened at the sight of the blood. Do you see?
Now why did he do this? He did this because in 1868, a Carbinaro threw a bomb at him. This Carbonaro was arrested, executed. But before he was
executed the Emperor went to his cell, as I understand it, and the Carbonaro gave him the secret sign of a fellow Carbonaro because the Emperor of
France in the, who became, who elected the president of France in 1848, seized the throne in 51, and proclaimed a new Napoleonic Empire and was over
thrown by Germans in 71, so he was the Emperor for, 70 really, for 20 years, do you see. But he had been a refugee from France because he tried to
make revolt in France, I think it was 1829. And as a refugee joined the Carbonari secret Society.
Furthermore he was a private policeman in the Chartrouse March in Parliament in London in 1848 the year he was elected president of France. He's a
mysterious figure, do you see?
So what I sewing up is this, I do think that there is probably a continous sequence of secret societies from Buonarotti Babeuf conspiracy which is
1894-5 [1794-5], through the Carbonari unification of Italy which would be 1861.
I cannot see anything since then that may exist, I haven't really studied it.
But I cannot see any connection between the Nations and the Illuminati, founded in Bavaria in 1776. And I can't see any connection between them and
That's what these people are saying, its all one. And some say it goes back to Noah building the Ark."
Sooner or later, people will realise the truth and awaken to the fact that they have been misled by cranks and their horses**t propaganda.
More and more people are waking up.
Once this force has gathered a certain momentum, NWO/Illuminati drivel can be finished off once and for all.
Rationality and clarity can be restored again.
[edit on 30-4-2008 by Ickey]