That's It!!! This Anti-Obama Propaganda Has Got To Stop

It will get even uglier if Obama declares himself the winner by refusing to count all the votes. Obama thinks he can take California and New York for granted, well, he had better think again. The welfare state loving DNC elites want to give Obama the nom, and if they do, that will be the end of the DNC, because they will have lost all the moderates in the party who support the Clintons.

If the DNC primaries were ran like the republicans run their primaries, Hillary would have already won, as she should. Obama isn't going to carry Florida or Ohio, nor any of the red states, so he doesn't have a chance anyway.

I agree. Obama and Clinton will both declare victory. It will tear apart the party. I think Clinton figures even if she can't win she can make Obama less likely to win (she then can run in four years instead of waiting for eight). I think she has a point that she's leading the popular and delegate vote when you factor in the disputed states. Obama has a point that the rules were agreed on ahead of time, too. If I was a voter in a disputed state, I wouldn't be happy that my vote doesn't count -- and there are literally millions of them. Either way there's going to be a meltdown.
I also agree that Obama has no chance of carrying several key states in the general election. Polling data suggest that Clinton has a much better chance against McCain.
Frankly, I'll probably be casting a vote for McCain. I don't like him, but I'm not thrilled with the other two candidates either. Clinton is a much more qualified candidate than Obama, but that doesn't mean I have to like her either. Why can't either party put up a decent candidate?


[edit on 6-5-2008 by _Del_]

reply to post by bigbert81


People giving flack to the OP need to Shut it.

The OP, has made reponses to an insane amount of posts, and should get credit for that.


I think that up til the age of 6, a person is a sponge, and then from 6-preteen, is relating what you have learned to the world around you.

Its something to think about, but not something to be the deciding issiue in a electio.

Too bad it looks like Obama has almost locked up the nomination. I was just waiting for the Clinton "Purge" of the Democratic Party. It would have made Mao and Stalin proud the way Hilliary would have whacked all those Democrats that threw her under the bus. Would have made great TV watching all of them either get pushed to the sideline or come back groveling. Alas, that probably will not happen.

Oh well, on to the Main Event. How did Obama do in the Big Electoral States by the way.............

[edit on 7-5-2008 by pavil]

I am sorry but don't you find this odd?

Charlotte, N.C. — “Tomorrow, we shall achieve the victory, that the kingdom of God may come on earth as it is in heaven, and all those who love the Lord and will vote for Obama, say Amen.”

article.nationalreview.com...

Obama We're going to keep on praising together. I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth."

www.cnn.com...

Obama said the Muslim call to prayer is “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”
In an interview with Nicholas Kristof, published in The New York Times, Obama recited the Muslim call to prayer, the Adhan, “with a first-class [Arabic] accent.”Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that Muhammad is his prophet? “

[edit on 023131p://bThursday2008 by Stormdancer777]

I tend to strongly disagree with some of these posts.

I'm not big into polling, but according to the numbers, a Republican doesn't stand a chance of winning the oval office this election term. Both Obama and Clinton would be projected to win by strong double digits.

And as far as the media goes, Poet, I watch a lot of it, and trust me, they ARE talking about 'Hillary being a fighter' much, much more than you seem to believe. Much more.

Even all the media is talking about how much they've been bashing Obama as well.

And the ONLY chance Hillary has currently is with this 'Nuclear' option, and that's starting to not look so hot, so I don't really see Hillary claiming victory, except for the whole 'white people' remarks she's just been caught saying.

[edit on 5/8/2008 by bigbert81]

It's still hard to believe you support Obama Bigbert.

I don't know how you can strongly disagree with all the pertinent facts about this man's character.

Are you Black, Gay, Muslim or Communist? I'm just curious I guess.

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Huh.

No, I'm a straight, white, working male who sees much more bad character in Hillary, and much worse issues in McCain.

Oh, and I do not belong to a religion, and I support freedom and equality full force.

[edit on 5/8/2008 by bigbert81]

Originally posted by bigbert81
I tend to strongly disagree with some of these posts.

I'm not big into polling, but according to the numbers, a Republican doesn't stand a chance of winning the oval office this election term. Both Obama and Clinton would be projected to win by strong double digits.

I just showed you a recent series of several polls that show this is not true. What poll do you have that shows a significantly different scenario whereby both dems project to over double digit leads? Are the Gallop and Rasmussen polls that inaccurate? The only poll like that is the NYTimes poll which is seriously skewed against the other results...

Yeah, there is alot of "Poll tampering", especially on MSNBC. MSNBC and CNN also censor message board messages. You have to wait for your post to be reviewed, if it ever goes on the sites at all. Talk about biased.

You just can't believe much of anything anymore, especially by the media when it comes to elections pivitol to investments etc.

The press "Obama" gets on MSNBC is sickening.

I still don't understand why Obama subjected his kids to the Jeremiah Wright sermons. That should be considered abuse.

The kid that threatened to shoot Bush probably goes to the same type of hate church.

Looks like Michelle got plenty from Wright's sermons because she now spews the same level of hate.

Obama plans on meeting with leaders of rouge nations yet he won't go on the Bill O'Reilly show.

reply to post by _Del_


These polls you're posting ALSO show Hillary to have a better chance at beating McCain than Obama.

Check out my Limbaugh telling listeners: 'Vote for Hillary' thread, and you might see how those polls are jacked up.

how could anyone vote for Obama when he is the most pro-abortion candidate ever ?

leaving babies to die after they have been born is the most sickest thing you could ever defend and obama has a track record of supporting this.

this is the main reason i would never vote for this sick excuse for a human being. his wife is also a supporter of this murder.

Barack Obama is the most pro-abortion presidential candidate ever.

He is so pro-abortion that he refused as an Illinois state senator to support legislation to protect babies who survived late-term abortions because he did not want to concede -- as he explained in a cold-blooded speech on the Illinois Senate floor -- that these babies, fully outside their mothers' wombs, with their hearts beating and lungs heaving, were in fact "persons."

On the Illinois Senate floor, Obama was the only senator to speak against the baby-protecting bills. He voted "present" on each, effectively the same as a "no."

www.cnsnews.com.../Commentary/archive/200801/COM20080109b.html
Obama Is the Most Pro-Abortion Candidate Ever -- 01/09/2008

As transparently biased as the MSM is, it should raise flags when they ooh and ahh (24/7) over a politician, who, quite clearly, is also a Democrat with socialist views and a strong supporter of pro-abortion legislation, particularly the gruesome partial-birth abortion

In February 2004, his wife, Michelle, sent out a fundraising letter, which actually stated her concern over the rise of conservatism in the Country, and that the ‘so-called’ partial-birth abortion was a legitimate medical procedure that should be protected.

www.associatedcontent.com...
Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. Defends Partial-birth Abortion - Associated Content





[edit on 9-5-2008 by easynow]

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Don't forget, Obama said a few weeks ago babies are a mistake and nothing more than punishment.
Scary times ahead folks.

... I've got two daughters. 9 years old and 6 years old. I am going to teach them first of all about values and morals. But if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby. I don't want them punished with an STD at the age of 16. You know, so it doesn't make sense to not give them information."

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I think this overly idealistic talk is getting a little ridiculous.

He said 'punished with a baby', and instead of thinking what he MEANT (teenage mother), you people get this idealistic viewpoint that he all of a sudden views all babies as a punishment. Lets start to be a realist instead of an idealist.

And as far as the baby stuff goes, I don't particularly agree with the whole abortion outside of the womb thing. I think it's wrong and terribly sad.

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Sorry for the one line post, but I have to ask. Is big media talking about Hillary's nuclear option?

reply to post by poet1b


Yes, they've mentioned it a few times, but it seems to be a non-issue. They'll mention it, MAYBE talk about it for a couple of mins., and then move on.

It's so irritating that they'll talk about this, and then speculate that she's going to drop out after the 20th. DUH...She's already made it clear that she intends to use those votes on the 31st.

I've said this on another thread. Senator Obama has been a member of Trinity Church for 20 years. Reverend Wright performed his/her marriage. Wright is racist and anti-American. I have heard Obama say that he cannot recall any sermons like the ones on youtube or TV etc. I can't believe that at all.

Oprah Winfrey (previously associated with the Trinity Church) is backing up Obama. At least a year ago or maybe more, she had a special fund raiser for him and it raised $3,000,000.

In my opinion, Farrakan and Wright are playing devil's advocates and they are the bad cops as opposed to the good cop (Obama).

Obama hasn't gotten this far on meager donations. His behind the scene backers are doing their job very well.

Why doesn't Senator Obama place his hand over his heart? I was taught that that is a sign of patriotism of one's Country. I do not find this a trivial point!!! As a Senator, a member of Congress, he is suppose to represent the American people...,....,I believe it disgraceful that Senator Obama should degrade his Country and the American people by such a condescending action!!! Where is his allegiance!?!?!?

I would like to know if he has automatic dual citizenship because of his birth father. America does not recognize dual citizenships, but other countries do.

So, I would like to know if anyone has heard whether Senator Obama has been asked if he only recognizes his citizenship as an American, because I would sure like to know that before he might possibly become President of the U. S.

Second, does he plan to continue not to be patriotic during the playing of our National Anthem.......,I would like that the media, the democratic party, etc. ask him these two questions and more. How can he take the oath to the Oval Office if he can't even place his hand over his heart in honor of his Country!?!?!?

reply to post by bigbert81


I know exactly what he meant.
I am not taking anything out of context but the problem here is that if he plans to be President he needs to be careful with what and how he says things.

Yeah I know you'll be quick to point out dubya does this all the time, maybe he does, maybe he doesn't, but there is nothing Bush can ever do to change world public opinion anyway.
And besides, I thought the thing about Obama is that he is suppose to represent change.

Saying the wrong thing at the wrong time could be extremely dangerous especially if he happens to be face to face with the leaders of rouge nations he plans on meeting with when he's President.

One stupid comment could be dangerous. He needs to be careful, period!

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So let's clear things up here. Big Media is being hard on Obama by apologizing for pointing out that his spiritual mentor is an anti-American racists, and they are being nice to Hillary by talking about how tough she is by planning on nuking the democratic party.

Are you that daff? Isn't it bloody obvious to you that the media is praising Obama by doing this and attacking Hillary at the same time, while pretending to do the opposite. The fact that there are so many people out there like you who suck up this kind of propaganda is maddening. This is how GW got elected twice. Wow, reality can truly be more moronic than The Simpson's".

Most plots for Disney kids shows are less transparent than this.