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What are the Masonic Secrets?

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posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by Achilles 13
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Who are Really the Freemasons...
'' From Monks to Brothers...''

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The Vatican used the same strategic tactic with the creation of freemasonry
but this time the Vatican, publicly and to 95% of adepts, dissociated them
self from their new '' Knight '' to protect Rome’s reputation and to even more
hide, their secret agenda. those new monks are now, in public front, a
fraternal charity organisation instead of Christian monasticism organisation,



when i said '' but this time the Vatican, publicly and to 95% of adepts
, dissociated them self *** OR EXCOMMUNICATE....IF IT IS EASIER
FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND ***
from their new '' Knight ''
.....

Rome, realised in early 1300 that their '' Knight Templars '' start to gave
a bad image and reputation to the Holy Roman Empire. Populations,
witness, of all the attrocities of the Knight Templars did under the Roman
Vatican order realise that Rome's biggest goal was to expand the Roman
empire territories and power.

So Rome decided to destroyed the Knight Templars organisation on Friday
the 13th, on 1312 Demolay was bured to dead by the king of france BUT
under the will of ROME...

Rome after created a new Knight army, without sword but with corruption
and lobbying strategies for weapons. but this time, those new
brainwashed soldiers have been excommunicated, to dicociated
them, from the Roman Holy Empire, to hide the power of the Vatican
to easely built their secret agenda, hidden behind the Globalisation process
who is in reality a process to creat a One World Empire under the secret
power of Rome, who some call the illuminati.....

'' *** All roads goes to Rome... ***''

Thanks emsed1 for the official proof, of Freemasonry will, to mislead the World...





posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 05:07 PM
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You know, the quality of our anti-mason trolls has really gone down lately. I am disappointed. You can do better. Your having to use your already debunked propaganda, its not even new stuff!

The problem is not only what you are saying completely made up, but that 100% of all freemasons identified as Catholics are excommunicated. You still have not shown, even in the context of the theory you just pulled out of your backside, how anyone is going to plot with the Vatican to RULE ZE WORLD after they have been excommunicated.

[edit on 16-7-2008 by ALightinDarkness]



posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by Achilles 13
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Who are Really the Freemasons...
'' From Monks to Brothers...''

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Populations of today , like populations who dealed with '' monk '' Knight Templar
are not sure how to react in front of Freemason '' Knights '', whose
real goal is secretly hidden from 95% of freemasons who are brainwashed
adepts like any cult, ( Scientology, Jehovah witness etc ),
all freemason here in ATS, are brainwashed victims, programmed with
, '' Hiram Abiff' '' ritual's, psychological tactic , to defend to the end...
freemasonry reputation.



It was not very Gentleman from you to call conspiracy theorist '' troll'' my friend...

You see, ALightinDarkness feel very insecure when a real conspiracy theorist
expose freemason's secret or conspiracies, even if freemason are misleading
others, they will defend freemasonry without being interested in the truth
because they have been programmed and psychologically brainwashed to
act like '' Hiram Abiff '' fiction story figure, brainwash program techniques
on their master mason's ritual degree


they feel proud, otherwise they fell bad about their self, they fell like they
betrayed there brothers, that's how strong the psychological oath,
brainwash techniques are use to programed adeptes.


Freemasonry goes upfront their own families, they have been
indoctrinated, i've been trying to help freemasons here for the past
6 months, with hundreds of post here in ATS, but it seems useless......!

M.ALightinDarkness and almost all freemasons, live in perfect darkness,
and doesn't know about it, because they all follow the light of lies.

All Freemasons are like, '' little marionettes '', act, behave
and says what they have been told to say.

This video here on 3 scientologist is a perfect example, of the behaviour
of brainwashed adepts,

all freemasons here, behave exactly like those three Cult members who try
to defend their Cult whatever proof they are shown...

All freemason's values, are base on Freemasonry teaching, they lost their
common sense and critical minds so every '' profanes '' like they call us, who
try to help them and critics freemasonry will be attack because they are unfortunately
freemasonry brainwashed puppets.


This post here....
 
was to help freemasons who have some
doubt and to honest sheeps who were about to get in.

I sincerely hope it help save some freemason and some non-mason to
turn back...before it is to late for them....!

*** Achilles 13 ***



posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 08:04 PM
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And yet again, you have absolutely no backing for anything you just said. Please at least get some new material.



posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 09:17 PM
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Hi Achilles,

I don't doubt that you believe there is a masonic/church conspiracy.

The reason I don't believe it is that I have been exposed to the inner workings of both organizations and I have yet to see a link.

I am as much a conspiracy-theorist as the next guy, but on the scale of evil and dangerous things I can think of many, many organizations with more evil intent on running the world than masons.

In fact (and I apologize to my brethren in advance) but most of the masons I know have a hard time organizing a pancake dinner, much less a new world order.

The wonderful thing about the world of conspiracy-theory though is that we have so many intelligent and skeptical folks brainstorming here on ATS that if there IS a conspiracy it will be revealed here.



posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 11:08 PM
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No pancakes for you!!!



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by emsed1
Hi Achilles,

In fact (and I apologize to my brethren in advance) but most of the
masons I know have a hard time organizing a pancake dinner, much less
a new world order.

The wonderful thing about the world of conspiracy-theory though is that
we have so many intelligent and skeptical folks brainstorming here on
ATS that if there IS a conspiracy it will be revealed here.


'' ..masons I know have a hard time organizing a pancake dinner..''

Maybe the mason you know.....yes the majority of freemason are regular
medium class workers even low class workers could be members, BUT REMEMBER....
Freemason are like the Knight Templars, '' MONKS '' and that is the genius
part of the conspiracy.....who would had douth that '' MONKS '' could be
soldiers of the crusades to fight for Rome.....'' brilliant '' isn't it.....!

BUT they areFreemason that can organise a lot more then *** pancake dinner ***

Google Famouse Freemasons you will find, *** Politicians, artistes,
powerful buseness man etc.....The declaration of independence was sign
by many powerful freemasons, that is a little better then a pancake
dinner hmmmm....!

When you start to conquer territories, one day or another populations will
start a rebellion........BUT if you corrupted the goverment and make a
theatrical rebellions, to make believe the conquered country is free, all
you have to do is to stay in control with corupted leaders and powerful economic
men, to easely, control the conquered country.

The USA is controled by the Federal reserve, the banking system and the
powerful corporation organisations (United Nation, world bank, etc ) and
ritch powerful buseness men ( Rothchild, Rockafellers, royale families etc. )
who influence the mass and lead the population to their control.

After England masivly control America, England organised the tea party
crissis, under orders of Rome,that lead to the war of independence, that
let population thing they were not under the control of England anymore
BUT...secretly.....England always been in control.......and england always,
secretly followed the orders of Rome......! That has always been their
strategy...! since 2000 years...!


So don't mixup thing here......

*** you have medium, low class '' MONKS '' ***
95% of Freemasons....!

*** You have powerful, corrupted men around the world ***
5% of Freemasons

BUT.... They are all Puppets, of the Roman Catholic Empire
who's the real... *** Grand Architect of the World...! ***


*** Achilles 13 *** '' to bad you can not make pancake, i would invite you over... ''




posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 10:41 AM
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Since thousand of years, one rules never change and that is...

*** Only those who can control populations, can built a Empire ***



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 10:43 AM
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You are strong in your convictions.

Let's say hypothetically that I uncovered a massive anarchomasonicatholic conspiracy in my masonic travels. What should I do?

Alternatively, what if I am a part of that conspiracy and now I am aware that you are trying to expose it? What should I do?

Finally, how do you plan to survive or mitigate this impending worldwide imprisonment? Will you oppose it or will you hide and try to wait it out?

And, how does it all end?



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 10:50 AM
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Originally posted by cutbothways


we solemnly promise never to reveal any of the secrets or mysteries of Freemasonry to anyone in the world who is not entitled to receive them.

What part of this did you guys not read?


What Psalms in the Bible do you study?

What is "The Book of Law"

Do you still use the Masonic Code?



Do you study "The Book of Thoth" and
the Liber-Al?

[edit on 29-4-2008 by cutbothways]


Thats what I was wondering myself eventhough Skull and Bones is somewhat similar but not quite like.

www.youtube.com...

But then again, If everyone that reads about freemasonry, learns of all the oaths, body positioning signs, symbolic representations etc. Then it is no longer secret?

If everyone that knows the members of Skull and Bones, their ceremonies, their positions in power etc. How can it be a secret anymore?

[edit on 7/17/2008 by prometheus1111]



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 11:35 AM
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You know, Achilles 13, your posting style has angered me considerably for quite some time... the constant use of images that have nothing to do with the topic at hand, or the repeated use of the same image in thread after thread, in violation of the T&C about spamming... (not to mention some of your latest pics being larger than the max height 680px)

but after having seen you post your "Build Real Democracy" graphic for the dozenth time, I realized those are Masons moving the stone letters into place. So, as you keep showing in your favorite pic, Masons are helping to Build Real Democracy!



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by Achilles 13
Google Famouse Freemasons you will find, *** Politicians, artistes,
powerful buseness man etc.....The declaration of independence was sign
by many powerful freemasons, that is a little better then a pancake
dinner hmmmm....!


You mean like, uhm....LEADERS OF THE COMMUNITY???? Wow. Fascinating concept that people who excel in their fields often excel in community-oriented organizations such as Freemasonry as well.

Why are you surprised at that? Why shouldn't the worlds oldest Fraternity include those who "make things happen"? Where would we be without those people?

I suppose you'd prefer then that Freemasonry limit herself to unconcerned, uninvolved, incapable, clueless, ne'er-do-wells, huh?

No thanks.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 11:43 PM
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Originally posted by JoshNorton
reply to post by Achilles 13
 


but after having seen you post your "Build Real Democracy" graphic for the dozenth time, I realized those are Masons moving the stone letters into place. So, as you keep showing in your favorite pic, Masons are helping to Build Real Democracy!


I was thinking the exact same thing, the irony which is lost on the blind.



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 07:47 AM
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*** Come on brothers, wakeup..! ***


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* SIGH *.... Another Freemason who see freemasonry '' everywhere ''
and think, freemasonry will save the world...!

Freemasons are so psychologicly programed to promot and defend their
religious CULT....that they completly disconect from the real world, even
if Conspiracy theorists are trying to help them, they will never understand.

Supposed, a conspiracy theorist tell a Freemason, that the sky is blue,
they will always says '' no it's not... hmmm, because freemasonry told us it's not.... ''


*sigh* open your eyes guys and wakeup.... Hiram Abiff is
only a fiction figure...hellllooooo....it's only a brainwash technique to
manipulate all the adeptes, Monks, and freemasons knight...!


Freemasons, believe they have a mision to accomplish, a '' *** Crusade *** ''
to let freemasonry save the world..


The fraternity front, is a disquise, Freemasonry is a '' CULT ''

*** FINAL ***



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have a nice day..!



*** Achiles 13 ***



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 08:21 AM
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Originally posted by Achilles 13
reply to post by '' Hiram - ForkandSpoon - Abiff ''
 


*** Come on brothers, wakeup..! ***


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* SIGH *.... Another Freemason who see freemasonry '' everywhere ''
and think, freemasonry will save the world...!


It's done a pretty good job so far.



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 09:59 AM
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Originally posted by Achilles 13
*sigh* open your eyes guys and wakeup.... Hiram Abiff is
only a fiction figure...hellllooooo....
Nobody ever said he was real. It's an allegorical tale that is used to help teach a lesson. Nobody's ever claimed it was anything more than that.

If anything due to the cryptic nature of some of the work, Masonry encourages men to think for themselves and question everything. Your assertion that Masons accept what they're "brainwashed" to believe is laughable. (If there were even a shred of truth, it would mean that all the Masons on ATS believe exactly the same things, which they don't as has been demonstrated again and again in threads here...)



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 10:16 AM
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Originally posted by Achilles 13
Freemasons, believe they have a mision to accomplish, a '' *** Crusade *** ''
to let freemasonry save the world..



Achilles,

Wherever did you get such a silly notion? Freemasonry makes no such claim, nor do Freemasons believe this.

Freemasonry is for the individual. Her goal is to make good men better. Saving the world isn't in any way our purpose. Never has been.

Personally Freemasonry has been very good for me. If some Masons choose to use it for ulterior purposes, shame on them. That's not what it's intended for. Period.



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 12:40 PM
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Originally posted by senrak

Achilles,
Wherever did you get such a silly notion?


STOP playing game would you, do you want a quick exemple....
take a look to our Friend and brother M. Forkandspoon post


Originally posted by ForkandSpoon

Originally posted by Achilles 13
reply to post by '' Hiram - ForkandSpoon - Abiff ''
 

.....and think, freemasonry will save the world...!


It's done a pretty good job so far.


STOP lieing, all the time to hide to population the truth, you are hurting
your self misleading honest and inoncent people and humanity.

The Freedom of every human being stop, where others start..!


P.S. ( prometheus1111, you were wondering about Skull and Bones,
it is the military unit,one of the division of the Roman Matrix, exacly like a
corporation, this strategy, is to easely control it all and like a boat, prevent
the boat from seaking if water getting in and the light of truth goes over
their heads.

The Skull And Bones logo are use by freemason, on some Apron reverse
side or Freemason art. And also, Christians art, you can find it on buttom
of some cross and in some churchs design. It is all connected.

Even some Freemason here love to shoe their art preferences.....

Our Good friend and Brother '' AugustusMasonicus '' have a for members logo
the picture of the Roman Augustus Ceasar.....

AND

Our Brother '' Hiram - ForkandSpoon - Abiff '' have a Skull and
Bones picture with a Freemason Square and compas logo at the buttom.
( your, brothers mason gonna be veerryyy mad about youuuu, mayby
some black marbles will come up in the lodge....LOL
)


But they are so brainwashed and hypnotised and programed, that they
dont realise and understand their own behaviors.

All negative, attitude against Conspiracy theorist are Hiram Abiff's
Programed strategy being aply by Freemason who don't see they are
being manipulate like '' MONKS '' or '' Freemason Knights '' by the
Freemasonry organisation.

Remember, 95% of Freemason just are Midium,low class workers
who don't understand they are manipulated and brainwashed...

how this could be possible....very easy search on Cult and Sects psychological
strategies you will find that Human being mind, can be control and
ordinary men can get manipulated, think about Jim Jones, Scientology,
Charles Taze Russell, the first President of the , Watchtower Cult
who is by the way in the cimetery of Greater Pittsburgh Masonic Center,
Or any cult in the world and in history all adeptes, are not concious about
them being manipulated, human being mind is very facinating.

The Freedom of every human being stop, where others start..!

Stop mislead population brothers...

Thanks

*** Achilles 13 ***



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 01:17 PM
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I quest you have never learned the fine art of sarcasm.

Or do you also belive that there a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

sarcasm added to avoid a one line post



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by Achilles 13
All negative, attitude against Conspiracy theorist are Hiram Abiff's
Programed strategy being aply by Freemason who don't see they are
being manipulate like '' MONKS '' or '' Freemason Knights '' by the
Freemasonry organisation.
But didn't you, in your last post say that Hiram Abiff is fictional? Therefore, by your own reasoning, any such programmed strategy must also be fictional, right?



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