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What are the Masonic Secrets?

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posted on Aug, 28 2008 @ 07:51 PM
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Originally posted by Fitzgibbon
I'm sure if it were, we'd rate a series on HBO or Showcase or somesuch.


Would you settle for two mediocre movies starring that chronic over-actor Mr. Nick Cage?




posted on Aug, 28 2008 @ 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by Achilles 13
All Freemasons took the Oath to Promote, Defend and protect
Freemasonry and so at all cost...


Can you quote or direct me to this oath and its contents?


NONE of them care about the ATS's Oath


I do not recall taking an oath when I joined AboveTop Secret can you please tell me who swore you in for this oath? They did however ask me to confirm that I was human.......I lied of course.



posted on Aug, 28 2008 @ 08:09 PM
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Masonry has its decalogue, which is a law to its Initiates. These are its Ten Commandments: I. God is the Eternal, Omnipotent, Immutable WISDOM and Supreme INTELLIGENCE and Exhaustless Love. Thou shalt adore, revere, and love Him ! Thou shalt honour Him by practising the virtues! II. Thy religion shall be, to do good because it is a pleasure to thee, and not merely because it is a duty. That thou mayest become the friend of the wise man, thou shalt obey his precepts ! Thy soul is immortal ! Thou shalt do nothing to degrade it ! III. Thou shalt unceasingly war against vice! Thou shalt not do unto others that which thou wouldst not wish them to do unto thee ! Thou shalt be submissive to thy fortunes, and keep burning the light of wisdom !


www.freemasons-freemasonry.com...

Rest of the above quote, and the book in it's entirety is available at the link I provided.
Yes, I know, Morals and Dogma s not indicative of Masonry and all, but I still think it's worth bringing up.
Was reading through the book myself, and I thought it was worth adding to the thread. Mirrors fairly well the ten commandments, at least to me.



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus


'' I do not recall taking an oath when I joined AboveTop Secret .....''


Another proof, that *** NONE *** of the Freemasons, who are posting here
in Above top Secret, are TRUSTABLE AND CREDIBLE...

They DONT CARE AT ALL to deny ignorance,
they want to manipule you to become ignorants...

They are ALL here ** Only ** to promot, defend and protect Freemasonry,
as brainwashed, disinformant agent.
EXACLY like those 3 Scientology followers.

Freemasonry is a CULT... *** FINAL ***


ALL, ATS's Gentlemen Conspiracy Theorists, Took the Oath to honesly,
Deny Ignorance, Investigate and expose ALL Conspiracies.
WE ALL Sweared on OUR HONOR, to promote ALL human been's Rights,
and to defend and protect humanity from Coruption, Tyrany and
'' Machiavellian '' Conspiracies.

AND Yes Runespider, the freemason' '' Bible '' Morals and Dogma Show
us once more that Freemasonry IS A RELIGIOUS CULT...

P.S. ( and......for our brother driley... your member's avatar is a nice...
Vatican's Knight Templar design... )


THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE A REAL CONSPIRACY INVESTIGATION IS
TO READ ALL THE PAGES OF THIS THREAD.

Follow the footprint of the greatest Gentlemen Conspiracy Theorists
of all time... *** The President John F. Kennedy ***

Conspiracy Revealed..! Page 22
Conspiracy Revealed..! Page 21
Conspiracy Revealed..! Page 20
Conspiracy Revealed..! Page 19
Conspiracy Revealed..! Page 18
Conspiracy Revealed..! Page 17
Conspiracy Revealed..! Page 16
Conspiracy Revealed..! Page 15
Conspiracy Revealed..! Page 14
Conspiracy Revealed..! Page 13
Conspiracy Revealed..! Page 12
Conspiracy Revealed..! Page 11
Conspiracy Revealed..! Page 10
Conspiracy Revealed..! Page 9
Conspiracy Revealed..! Page 8
Conspiracy Revealed..! Page 7
Conspiracy Revealed..! Page 6
Conspiracy Revealed..! Page 5
Conspiracy Revealed..! Page 4
Conspiracy Revealed..! Page 3
Conspiracy Revealed..! Page 2
Conspiracy Revealed..! Page 1

*** Achilles 13 ***



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 10:58 AM
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The Vatican killed the Knights Templar, so I don't think they would want to be associated with them.

I think it's hard to make a Vatican/Freemasonry connection when we really don't like each other that much.

Of course I know a few Catholics who are masons, but they don't broadcast it.

We are, after all, still under an excommunication edict as far as I know.



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 11:06 AM
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My grandfather asked to be buried with his Masonic apron on. My aunt secretly removed it before he was burried. There, you have a secret.



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 11:59 AM
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reply to post by emsed1
 


Once against a brainwashed Freemasonry Victime, trying to manipulate
profanes and conspiracy theorists....


remember emsed1 ON PAGE 20 I CLEARLY EXPLAINED IT TO YOU....
Don't tell me you forgot....it is when i told you..

'' Thanks emsed1 for the official proof, of Freemasonry will, to mislead the World... ''

I am a having a hard time imaginening you forgot it..... it was to explain
to thread on page 19....

DO YOU ALL REALISED HOW MUCH ENERGY FREEMASONS WILL PUT
TYING TO MANIPULATE YOU OPPINION ON THEIR RELIGIOUS CULT...

read it ALL BACK.......!

*** Achiles 13 ***



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 12:53 PM
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That is actually a very interesting theory. Excommunicating a group and disavowing them would be a very good cover story if you were secretly conspiring.

I am not sure how I could respond without offending my brothers and other ATSers who are Catholic, except to say that if I found out we were secretly serving the Pope I would turn in my apron today.

I apologize if that offends any Catholics. The Catholic ministries of healthcare and charity are probably unsurpassed by any group in the world. I also believe the overwhelming number of modern Catholics are good people.

However, I would not serve the Pope (or Satan, or Lucifer) in any capacity.

Again, I am not speaking for masonry. Maybe some other brothers could shed light on their beliefs, but for me - no way!



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by emsed1
reply to post by Achilles 13
 


That is actually a very interesting theory. Excommunicating a group and
disavowing them would be a very good cover story if you were secretly
conspiring.



WELL...i have to admit that you are really suprising me emsed1,

WE SHOULD ALL be working together here, to deny ignorance.....
to promote ALL human been's Rights, and to defend and protect humanity
from Coruption, Tyrany and '' Machiavellian '' Conspiracies.

esmed1, i respect You're open mind and your will to see the world with all is sides
BAD and GOOD without any private organisation influences.

ABOVE TOP SECRET is a great tool, to Deny Ignorance, we should all
use it in a honest and respected way, to help humanity and our children's future.

AND follow the Footprint of...
THE GREATEST GENTLEMEN CONSPIRACY THEORIST ..!

*** The President John F. Kennedy ***



*** Achiles 13 ***




posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by Achilles 13
in Above top Secret, are TRUSTABLE AND CREDIBLE...

They DONT CARE AT ALL to deny ignorance,
they want to manipule you to become ignorants...

They are ALL here ** Only ** to promot, defend and protect Freemasonry,


Achilles,

I hate to break it to you but I will admit that Freemasons (like mankind in general) are not as a group perfect. I will also admit that I will 'promot', defend and protect Freemasony from outrageous lies, innuendos, half-truths and the ilk and I make no apology for doing so. Having first-hand experience of Masonry, I know when certain people are speaking out their sphincter and I make no apology for pointing such things out (however embarrassing for the sphincter-speaker they may be).


Originally posted by Achilles 13
Freemasonry is a CULT... *** FINAL ***


Then do please explain the union of Protestants, Catholics, Jews, Sikhs and members of various other religions working together in peace and harmony, looking not to best each other with a 'my-religion's-better-than-your-religion' riposte.


Originally posted by Achilles 13
ALL, ATS's Gentlemen Conspiracy Theorists, Took the Oath to honesly,
Deny Ignorance, Investigate and expose ALL Conspiracies.


Ignorance on your part does not a conspiracy on another's part make.


Originally posted by Achilles 13
AND Yes Runespider, the freemason' '' Bible '' Morals and Dogma Show
us once more that Freemasonry IS A RELIGIOUS CULT...


Oddly enough, M&D has yet to be introduced to me, even though I'm well into the officer line in my Lodge. Guess they're waiting until I'm about to be Master to spring it on me. Of course, since it's so witheringly bad, they're obviously counting on my inherent Canadian niceness not to make a scene and to preside over the Lodge for a year before I give up the 'secrets' that make Freemasonry inherently bad, right?


Originally posted by Achilles 13
THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE A REAL CONSPIRACY INVESTIGATION IS
TO READ ALL THE PAGES OF THIS THREAD.


May I be the first to suggest that you personally undertake this mammoth task? That way, you have first-hand knowledge and can't accuse anyone of being a Freemasonic plant to divert you from the 'truth'?



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by Achilles 13
[Another proof, that *** NONE *** of the Freemasons, who are posting here
in Above top Secret, are TRUSTABLE AND CREDIBLE...


Sorry everyone, I guess it is all my fault. I will endeavor to be more 'trustable'.


They DONT CARE AT ALL to deny ignorance,
they want to manipule you to become ignorants...


You have again caught me. Manipulating others is more fun then manipulating yourself. Try it and let me know.....


They are ALL here ** Only ** to promot, defend and protect Freemasonry,
as brainwashed, disinformant agent.
EXACLY like those 3 Scientology followers.


Again, I confess, you are correct. I am very brainwashed and have no idea what to say unless the Pope gives me direction.


Freemasonry is a CULT... *** FINAL ***


Agreed.


ALL, ATS's Gentlemen Conspiracy Theorists, Took the Oath to honesly,
Deny Ignorance, Investigate and expose ALL Conspiracies.
WE ALL Sweared on OUR HONOR, to promote ALL human been's Rights,
and to defend and protect humanity from Coruption, Tyrany and
'' Machiavellian '' Conspiracies.


We did. Even though I forgot where this was I know I did swear to do so, thank you for reminding me of this oath.


AND Yes Runespider, the freemason' '' Bible '' Morals and Dogma Show
us once more that Freemasonry IS A RELIGIOUS CULT...


We did not need our Bible to show us this, your exhaustive research has proven this time and again. Bravo!


P.S. ( and......for our brother driley... your member's avatar is a nice...
Vatican's Knight Templar design... )


Shame on you driley, you Vatican serving mindless automaton.


THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE A REAL CONSPIRACY INVESTIGATION IS
TO READ ALL THE PAGES OF THIS THREAD.


Would the Cliff Notes version suffice?


Follow the footprint of the greatest Gentlemen Conspiracy Theorists
of all time... *** The President John F. Kennedy ***


I feel I must correct you. John Fitzgerald Kennedy is not the greatest 'Gentlemen Conspiracy Theorist'....you are!

Your uncovering of Freemasonry's truths is simply astounding and must be recognized. I am certain that my other brainwashed Bretheren will never admit to this but I will. I no longer worship Lucifier/Jabulon/Mammon...I worship you and all your infinite wisdom.



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 06:36 PM
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Oooh. Good call. Do we need to take a new oath to show our fidelity to the wise and oblivious Oz Achilles 13? How about this one...


I, Josh Norton, under duress and pain of boredom, in the presence of almighty Achilles 13 and this venerable board of conspiracy theorists, erected to Achilles 13 and dedicated to the Mods whose names begin with "S", do hearsay and heron, insincerely and mockingly suggest and imply that I will not, under any circumstances be brainwashed like so many sheep, nor allow it to be done in my presence if within my power to prevent it, the sheep being worthy, and my taste for mutton satiated.

I furthermore suggest and imply that I will not, under any circumstance LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE, unless I feel inclined to tell a truth that is, perhaps, an unpopular one.

I furthermore suggest and imply that I will not invoke prosthetics when speaking of our unholy disorder on ATS.

All of which I exhaust and exhume under the penalty of having my navel pierced, my belly-button lint taken forth and scattered to the chicken of the sea, where it may get caught in the teeth of the Deep Ones should I in any way by nature of absentmindedness or sheer folly flout or contravene any part of the ATS oat, so help me Achilles 13 and keep me steadfast.



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 06:53 PM
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Originally posted by JoshNorton
Oooh. Good call. Do we need to take a new oath to show our fidelity to the wise and oblivious Oz Achilles 13? How about this one...


I, Josh Norton, under duress and pain of boredom, in the presence of almighty Achilles 13 and this venerable board of conspiracy theorists, erected to Achilles 13 and dedicated to the Mods whose names begin with "S", do hearsay and heron, insincerely and mockingly suggest and imply that I will not, under any circumstances be brainwashed like so many sheep, nor allow it to be done in my presence if within my power to prevent it, the sheep being worthy, and my taste for mutton satiated.

I furthermore suggest and imply that I will not, under any circumstance LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE, unless I feel inclined to tell a truth that is, perhaps, an unpopular one.

I furthermore suggest and imply that I will not invoke prosthetics when speaking of our unholy disorder on ATS.

All of which I exhaust and exhume under the penalty of having my navel pierced, my belly-button lint taken forth and scattered to the chicken of the sea, where it may get caught in the teeth of the Deep Ones should I in any way by nature of absentmindedness or sheer folly flout or contravene any part of the ATS oat, so help me Achilles 13 and keep me steadfast.


So mote it be.



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 06:56 PM
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*********************************************************

THE USE OF,PSYCHOLOGICAL, PERSUASION TECHNIQUES like...

*********************************************************

'' Amplification, irony and sarcasm...etc '' are dishonesly used by Freemasons...

the one use here , by our Roman Emperor freemason is
*** Exaggeration strategy ***

Exaggeration strategy , means overstating to emphasize or illustrate a point, appeal
to emotion, or get attention. An effective technique, especially when
writers are using humor or irony, it is also called hyperbole.


Freemasons use it, to MANIPULATE Conspiracies Theorists, to avoid mass
investigation on freemasonry. and derailed threads who are exposing
freemasonry conspiracies.

Those Psychological Persuasion Techniques, used by Freemasonry's
'' MONKS, KNIGHT and Hiram Abiff brainwashed followers... ''
are exactly the same, that any CULT FOLLOWERS.

It is not ALL Cult followers who will never wakeup BUT some will never
realised they are being used like Vatican's sheep by CULT organisation.

some, like fitzgibbon, who's personality, looks like the the guy with the
blond beard on the video of the 3 brainwahed CULT members will
probably never understand, for him it is probably TO LATE my friend....!
 


BUT some will wakeup, and hangup their Apron and become...
honest ATS's..Gentle conspiracy theorists and help us Deny Ignorance and
expose conspiracies to help the world to built a better futur.

Read it ALL... FROM page 1

*** Achiles 13 ***



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 07:21 PM
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I don't even know where to start. Exaggeration, or hyperbole, is a literary device and predates freemasonry I would assume. Although I guess assumptions are what got you to where you are... so perhaps I should avoid making them.



edit: geez, i just realized I'm also making use of sarcasm now.


[edit on 29-8-2008 by scientist]



posted on Aug, 30 2008 @ 01:00 PM
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Originally posted by Achilles 13
some, like fitzgibbon, who's personality, looks like the the guy with the
blond beard on the video of the 3 brainwahed CULT members will
probably never understand, for him it is probably TO LATE my friend....!


Hah! I just watched the video and that blond guy is out of his gourd. Are you really like that Fitzy?

Just a harmless little question from your friendly Roman Emperor Vatican serving brainwashed monk/knight Mason.



posted on Aug, 30 2008 @ 01:22 PM
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I don't believe there are any masons on these forums, but rich people are always the bringers of eternal torture and pain. That's all they want. They want to see you cry blood...



posted on Aug, 30 2008 @ 02:24 PM
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Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

Hah! I just watched the video and that blond guy is out of his gourd. Are you really like that Fitzy?

Just a harmless little question from your friendly Roman Emperor Vatican serving brainwashed monk/knight Mason.


Couldn't say for sure as I'm not especially inclined to be following links posted by Achilles judging from his posting manner. If you ask my stepdaughter when she and I've been bickering, she might say she thinks I come off that way. But aside from those rare occasions, I think it's safe to say I blend in nicely with the rest of human kind.



posted on Aug, 31 2008 @ 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by Wolfheart
I don't believe there are any masons on these forums, but rich people are always the bringers of eternal torture and pain. That's all they want. They want to see you cry blood...


Well you busted me.

I am only claiming to be a mason so I can come here and get maligned, made fun of and be accused of horrific crimes.

Would you believe me if I gave you the secret password and handshake?

I hope so because it sure is important to me that you believe us.



posted on Sep, 2 2008 @ 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by cutbothways



The 33rd degree for Freemasons is the level where a Mason becomes a Shriner in the Scottish Rite.
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They also have children’s hospitals and burn centers for children. Many U.S. presidents have been Shriners, such as Franklin Roosevelt, Gerald Ford, and Harry Truman.

www.fdrs.org...

So, either your response in an outright attempt to throw us off the track, or you are a little less "illuminated" than you thought.



Yeah, that last quote is where you went totally wrong. Quoting a site that appears to be about tax evasion on Freemasonry may not be the best matching of source to topic.

It was a requirement at one time that to join the Shrine, a man had to have completed either the York Rite or the Scottish Rite (32nd Degree). However, not all Scottish Rite 32nd (or even 33rd) degree masons are Shriners. The requirement has since been dropped and you need only be a Master Mason to become a Shriner.

The Scottish Rite has nothing to do with the Shrine. The Shrine has nothing to do with the Scottish Rite. They have separate officers, separate meetings, and different purposes.

Honestly, it isn't that hard to figure out.

Freemasonry has at it's base and heart the Blue Lodge where everything starts. Everyone man who wishes to go elsewhere in the system has to be a Master Mason in good standing with a Lodge. Then you may, if you wish, join the York Rite and end up wearing a nifty plumed hat as a Templar or the Scottish Rite and end up with a nifty flat hat, or a Shriner and end up with a nifty fez. The hats, however, are entirely optional and do not make a man any more or less of a Mason. The core of the organization lies in the Blue Lodge and the sublime degree of Master Mason is the highest and most important degree given.

Just wait until the conspiracy types find out about "Cryptic Masonry." Can you imagine what they will make of that??!



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