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Freemasonry's Connection To The Homosexual Movement

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posted on May, 20 2008 @ 02:27 PM
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Ok its really disgusting but justme I know youve heard of that one ritual where members are naked blindfolded and banded behind and in front of each other while reaching back holding each others penis's. I cant recall what lodge it is but someone brought it forward. Making some kind of human symbological ring. The meaning, I dont know lol.

Not saying I know its true, but the accusations have been circling around for a while.



posted on May, 20 2008 @ 02:31 PM
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LOL .. omg..

First: That is .. definitely NOT Masonic ..

Second, if your as old as your Avatar suggest you are.. you shouldn't be looking around on the Internet for such things.....



posted on May, 20 2008 @ 02:32 PM
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How the hell are you going to know exactly? Do you have him sitting in your bed right now?



posted on May, 20 2008 @ 02:34 PM
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I have been too lazy to update my avatar, but its irrelevant to this topic. Im surprised youve never heard of that ritual, seeing how you claim to be a "Freemason."



posted on May, 20 2008 @ 02:35 PM
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I don't claim to be a Freemason. I am a Freemason. And I know for a fact that is not a Masonic ritual. I also do not spend my free time searching the internet for homosexual rituals. Even if it's been a year or two, judging from your Avatar you still shouldn't be looking at such things...



posted on May, 20 2008 @ 02:40 PM
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I'm "interested" in how "you" feel that this "rumor" is indeed an "actual" "freemason" ritual. Why is it "so" shocking that a mason has not "heard" of this non-masonic practice?

(quotes added for no reason at all, I see you started it, I figured I would continue the trend).



posted on May, 20 2008 @ 03:02 PM
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What, a circle jerk? Not a Masonic activity. It's an OK band though, if you're into punk.



posted on May, 20 2008 @ 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by topsecretombomb
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How the hell are you going to know exactly? Do you have him sitting in your bed right now?


What are you talking about? You stoned again or something?



posted on May, 20 2008 @ 04:03 PM
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Originally posted by topsecretombomb
Ok its really disgusting but justme I know youve heard of that one ritual where members are naked blindfolded and banded behind and in front of each other while reaching back holding each others penis's.


I've never heard of such a thing, and I personally would not engage in anything like that.



posted on May, 21 2008 @ 03:32 AM
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Crowley taught that the way you could live forever is by vampirizing young children sexually. He personally bragged about slaughtering about 150+ children in one year.

They believe every time they defile a kids youth they are extending their lives. They believe they are accessing alternate universes and alternate realities.

Video link on Freemasonry:

video.google.com...



posted on May, 21 2008 @ 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by topsecretombomb
Crowley taught that the way you could live forever is by vampirizing young children sexually.


Really?

I suggest you're lying here. Care to show us the Crowley book, with page number, where he said such a thing?


He personally bragged about slaughtering about 150+ children in one year.


He wasn't "bragging", he was cracking a joke. Have you ever actually read anything by Crowley?

No, didn't think so.



posted on May, 21 2008 @ 10:40 AM
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Even if Crowley said/believed those things, what does it have to do with Freemasonry?



posted on May, 21 2008 @ 03:59 PM
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since he was a 33 mason, everything he said, did or wrote is automatically associated with masonry by those critical of the craft.



posted on May, 21 2008 @ 05:15 PM
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Except when he wasn't, of course. Masonic Light is usually the one to chime in on Crowley's pedigree around here, so I'll let him elaborate if he so chooses.



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 12:39 PM
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Dear Ahuman,
Is Bush a Freemason? Decide for yourself:
freemantv.artopium.com...
cut to the chase, go to 10:34 seconds and watch the item on GWB.

As they say if it quacks like a duck it's a duck; if it barks like a dog, it's a dog.

No truth can be absolutely known, unless you are first party to it, then can you trust even your own senses as they may have been manipulated by the magician?

Apply Achems razor to determine what is most plausible.

The world is not as it seems.

THX_1138



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 12:52 PM
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Unless Bush is gay, what exactly does this have to do with the thread premise? If you want to start a thread about your topic, feel free; just don't derail this one even more than it's already derailed



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 01:24 PM
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This topic is blown out of proportions,the links provided do not give me the picture that the headline draws up, so either rename it or put up some links which actually qualify the headline.

What I read was how in some Masonic organisations they work towards educating their brothers in tolerance, which i do not see any problem in.

As stated in first provided link 2% of worlds population is gay, so therefor there is ofcourse also gay people involved in Masonic organisations.

Best regards.

Loke.



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 02:20 PM
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What a load of BS homesexual fremasons rituals, freemason sex rituals, freemason conspiracies.

This is utter tosh no hard evidence at all, it's great how rumours start!



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 02:25 PM
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Originally posted by topsecretombomb
reply to post by JustMe74
 


Ok its really disgusting but justme I know youve heard of that one ritual where members are naked blindfolded and banded behind and in front of each other while reaching back holding each others penis's. I cant recall what lodge it is but someone brought it forward. Making some kind of human symbological ring. The meaning, I dont know lol.

Not saying I know its true, but the accusations have been circling around for a while.
I know this isn't true and I'm not a freemason. I am gay though,and if that sort of shnizzle goes on behind closed doors,the gaydars in the areas would just explode.Gay people would instinctivly know. A concentration of nudity on such a scale,just couldn't go un detected.

rest as ease,your kin folk are safe.....for now......



posted on Oct, 14 2008 @ 06:38 PM
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Mr. Fitzgibbon,

It was not my intention to derail an already derailed post. On the contrary, I was only replying to one supporting facet of this very important debate, whether Mr Bush was/is a Freemason. I understand that it is of utmost importance to discuss Mr. Bush's gayness, so let's discuss it.

First of all, the use of Achems razor may be used to lend a hand in such an argument. My point in questioning the possibility of answering this on an absolute level is valid and pertains to the argument of his gayness. Unless one was there or has proof like a picture with an actual sex act happening how can one say he is gay? Also, is there a difference between being gay and acting gay?

Would a picture of Mr. Bush in close proximity to a gay porn star help build the case. These exist. How about participation in rituals such as the cremation of care, where most of the attendants exhibit "gay leanings?" But this would be circumstantial, as one would have to positively identify him and then there would only be guilt by association. Just because someone has been given high status as a mob member, doesn't mean he had to kill someone to get there or for that matter do anything illegal.

I suggest that the readers here at this forum go to this link:
question911.com... and scroll down to "Conspriacy of Silence" and then do your on research. This banned "made for TV" documentary highlights the interstate transportation and exploitation of children from Boy's Town through their use in servicing Washington insiders. This ought to spice up the conversation here and help keep it on topic. Here is an excerpt from that site:

"Conspiracy of Silence This documentary was created for The Discovery Channel, it involved an investigation into high ranking political figures and a child prostitution ring. The cable companies were convinced to cancel the airing at the last minute and destroy all copies. This video tape work print survived.
Conspiracy of Silence 1of2 (WMV 47megs)
Conspiracy of Silence 2of2 (WMV 47megs)"

I hope that this material may be more pertinent to the thread than my last post. You still wont find absolute proof that Mr Bush is gay, however, you will find evidence to support that there is widespread abuse and perversion antithesis to prescribed societal norms happening in high devils of government. I apologize for not being more in harmony with the spirit of this thread previously.

Thank you for the opportunity to participate,

Sincerely,
THX_1138

Postscriptum: This doesn't prove that Rudy is a cross dresser or that Donald is gay:
www.youtube.com...




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