Originally posted by jsobecky
The posts function just recently came back into operation. This thread abused that function. If the posts function is ever permanently removed, it will be because of abuse of it.

Perhaps you're thinking of the "Threads" button; this has nothing to do with the posts button. The threads button was never removed from peoples' profiles, and I've never denied that this thread was "inspired" by the threads of another member.

Originally posted by jsobecky
So instead of playing grammar police on the victim, we should be denouncing this thread.

I've already done such, and right from my very first post no less; however, FF has been here long enough to know how to use the "ALERT" button if she felt that she was being targeted (and I wouldn't have faulted her for doing such). What she chose to do was unnecessary, and only served to add fuel to the fire.

[edit on 4/25/08 by redmage]

Greetings all,

This is interesting stuff. I remember Pastor John Hagee from living down south in the "Bible Belt," he was always on TV and I would occaisionally watch him for comedic value. I was unaware of his derogatory comments regarding the Jewish people, that on the one hand doesn't surprise me having grown up in a fundamentalist evangelical environment, but what's curious is Hagee has been pretending to be a friend of Israel/the Jewish people the last couple of years. He fancies himself a "Zionist" which I find curious and laughable. I don't want to make broad generalizations here, but I have noticed that a lot of evangelical types and on the other end of the spectrum a lot of catholics have some really nasty and derogatory things to say about the jews. When challenged they have circular logic they tend to apply to justify their opinions. For instance, the first half of the Greek Bible includes (albeit not the most accurate of translations according to a lot of scholarly sources) Jewish scripture, and wasn't the man called Christ a "jew?" They always bring up the notion that now that the J-man is on the scene, he negates all of the "old testament" and the jews are evil because they stuck to their own traditions faithfully (I'm talking about the observant jews, not the Hollywood jews) and didn't blindly follow some guy with a messiah-complex. If he nullified the laws of the "Old Testament" then why bother to include it in your Bible? I could go on and on, as a former student of comparative religion, but it's largely pointless to argue matters of faith, as they are just that.

I love it when people pretend to be your friend and behind your back they stick the knife in and twist it, that's real "christian." And for the record I'm not jewish. Religion is a matter of personal choice and I find value in all perspectives, but I *really* dislike how a lot of christians (and I mean a lot, not all) treat religiously observant jews, I think it's uncalled for to shove your religious opinions down people's throats and threaten them with eternal damnation just because they have a different opinion or set of observances than you. Alright, I'm stepping off of my soapbox.

Peace,
Hex23

Edit to add: Oh yeah, I forgot to mention one of the things that was my original reason for posting. I think they are all bums, I don't like Hillary, Obama, or McCain. It's the same false-dichotomy, broken system that has been going on in this country for entirely too long. I guess I'm not going to vote.

[edit on 25-4-2008 by hexagram23]

It's such a shame that politics is no longer about policies.

These days it's about who can smear their opponent more effectively.

All part of the game, I know - but people get sidetracked by the personal attacks and forget about what politicians want to do once in office.

And we're as much to blame for buying into it, instead of insisting that they focus on the issues that matter to us.

ill put a different spin on this thread and say im just happy to see two people who are actually getting right into this election hype, they must be very eager to vote in the US elections (since its voluntary to vote in USA)

makes a nice change from the dudes who sit on the couch and drink beers while watching grid iron because they cant be arsed voting, but then will bitch and moan for the next few years about the president AFTER hes elected and its too late.

I think Obama's kid-glove treatment is one of the reasons some journalists, some talk show hosts, and some posters here have to reach into the depths of this candidates history.

Even comedy shows are playing the game. And those jokes aren't funny unless there is a kernel of truth to them. Did any of you see the SNL skit, where at the debates, the moderators kept asking Obama if he needed a glass of water, or a pillow? That obviously didn't happen in reality, but it was a caricature of reality.
He's mostly getting a free ride, with free press.

It's up to others, who see him as a threat to our nation to play out stories that paint him in a negative iight..That's just politics.

After the last Dem debate there was griping that the questions were unfair, or too hard. Well I have news for Hillary, and Obama..they got "Ron Paul'd".
Paul supporters griped about the very same thing, and were labled crybabies.
The term crybaby fits here too. God forbid we talk about issues.

Speaking of issues, this presidential campaign is no different than any other.
The candidates speak in vagueries. They do it on purpose, so there is no accountability later. It's up to the voters, and now the bloggers, discussion groups to see through what little information we get. To analyze, to ponder, to guess.

This stuff you call Yellow journalism, is par for the course. And is certainly milder than the political journaism of the past.

So It's Obama's turn to get "Ron Paul'd".
YOu should be happy, that means he's the frontrunner for the moment.



[edit on 25-4-2008 by spacedoubt]

Originally posted by stikkinikki
Thanks for the great summary. The attack threads are kind of the same no matter what board you go to. Too bad McCain doesn't rhyme with another one of the criminals on our Wanted: dead or alive list.

Mm.. actually there was one thread a while back that said McCain meant "son of Cain!"

When the Welsh translation was more along the lines of "from clear spring" something like that.