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reply posted on 25-4-2008 @ 07:03 AM by Long Lance
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 Originally posted by Griff
I'm just thinking out loud with all of you. I really don't know if it could work, but imagine a 6-pound device being able to fell a building. And
would this device be found, noticed and identified by the workers in the rubble of two-110 story buildings? 
you are probably on a good track, i've heard of this little sound demolition device before, even read about it in a rather superficial book about
Tesla, i just can't believe that it was the whole story. wave devices could easily be distributed at a certain distance from the target (wlthough
targetting would probably become more complicated), in an array, in which case no remnants would have existed on site.
the basic mechanism was probably used (sympathetic excitation) but Tesla's little machine was apparently based on soundwaves, which cannot really
account for entire pools of molten metal, heat signatures that lasted for weeks, standing cores* and seismic records (questionable in terms of
reliability, i know), which indicated discrete precursor events, rather than a gradual buildup.
i could be wrong about the signature of such a device, though.
That said, if the princpiple could be used on a molecular level, everything falls neatly into place.
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*reference to all who haven't seen the pics yet: the remaining core of WTC#2, seen shortly after the initial collapse: - scroll down a bit
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reply posted on 25-4-2008 @ 07:57 AM by StellarX
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Originally posted by interestedalways
Planes disintegrating in midair, unexpected earthquakes following loud sounds and lights, the reported seismic activity in Oregon and
descriptions of "sounds of roaring thunder"
Sure it is a stretch, but something to think about.
It gets quite a bit stranger than that!
 The earthquake occurred directly under Tangshan at a depth of 8km (5 miles).
A magnitude 7.1 aftershock 15 hours later caused further destruction and killed many people trapped in collapsed buildings.
news.bbc.co.uk...The night preceding the earthquake, July 27-28, many people reported seeing strange lights as well as loud sounds. The lights were seen in a
multitude of hues. Some people saw flashes of light; others witnessed fireballs flying across the sky. Loud, roaring noises followed the lights and
fireballs. Workers at the Tangshan airport described the noises as louder than that of an airplane.2
history1900s.about.com... 28 July 1976
"Just before the first tremor at 3:42 am, the sky lit up like daylight. The multi-hued lights, mainly white and red, were seen up to 200 miles away.
Leaves on many trees were burned to a crisp and growing vegetables were scorched on one side, as if by a fireball."
Some New Details on China's Quake
And a even earlier 'incident'...
There is another possible - if wildly improbable - cause of the mysterious event at Tunguska in 1908 (7 September, p 14). One of Nikola Tesla's
great projects was the wireless transformation of energy over large distances. He believed that this could be harnessed in war to destroy incoming
attacks from over 300 kilometres away.
Tesla built his "death ray" at Wardencliffe on Long Island, and it is a possible that he tested it one night in 1908. The story goes something like
this. At the time, Robert Peary was trekking to the North Pole and Tesla asked him to look out for unusual activity. On the evening of 30 June 1908,
Tesla aimed his death ray towards the Arctic and turned it on. Tesla then watched the newspapers and sent telegrams to Peary, but heard about nothing
unusual in the Arctic.
However, he did hear about the unexplainable event in Tunguska, and was thankful no one was killed, as it was clear to him that his death ray had
overshot. He then dismantled his machine, as he felt it was too dangerous to keep it. See www.parascope.com/en/1096/tesdeth.htm for the full story.
www.newscientist.com... The curious effect of the Tunguska explosion on the trees near ground zero was replicated during atmospheric nuclear tests in the 1950s and
1960s. These effects are caused by the shock wave produced by large explosions. The trees directly below the explosion are stripped as the blast wave
moves vertically downward, while trees further away are felled because the blast wave is travelling closer to the horizontal when it reaches them.
Soviet experiments performed in the mid-1960s, with model forests (made of matches) and small explosive charges slid downward on wires, produced
butterfly-shaped blast patterns strikingly similar to the pattern found at the Tunguska site. The experiments suggested that the object had approached
at an angle of roughly 30 degrees from the ground and 115 degrees from north and had exploded in mid-air.
en.wikipedia.org...
IF someone has the time and proper maps maybe they can check for us where 115 degrees from north to the Tunguska site leads us to on the continental
US? Maybe we can increase the scope of the 'coincidences' required for this to have been natural ocurance?
More information/sources starting at around post 4 of my response to westcoast. I would like to repeat all of that here but it does take up
space...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Stellar
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reply posted on 25-4-2008 @ 08:23 AM by Griff
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As I've said, it doesn't explain all anomolies. But, I believe such devices could have loosened things up a bit.
It's just a theory that probably can never be proven.
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reply posted on 25-4-2008 @ 09:07 AM by Grock
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Having sutied everything Tesla, it brings up a good point... after his death, the gov. went into his office/home etc... and took everything.
everything.
all his research (and most of his knowledge) is now and has been every since then property of the us government. There may actually be something to
this.
And your op was spot on btw.
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reply posted on 25-4-2008 @ 11:18 AM by observe50
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I think this thread does need a star and flag.
I have a question and I am serious about this and would like your thoughts.
We have been having unusual quakes lately the ones off Oregon that are happening in swarms like when they would be near a volcano but there is no
volcano and also the mid-west quakes. I am a little stomped, I just checked the IRIS map
www.iris.edu...
and there is a new quake in Southern Indiana if you put your cursor on the red circle there it will say:
Mag. 4.2 25 APR-2008 17:30:58 Southern Indiana
I called the other half of me that deals in Maritime to be sure and that time today has not arrived yet. Are we being told something here.
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reply posted on 25-4-2008 @ 02:47 PM by interestedalways
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I, as a layman, found this chart to be very enlightning. I can't get it to copy and paste as external source, maybe because it's a table.
Please take the time to have a look. Many of you of course are familiar the the terms were taken from the inventors, but I was not.
Here is the link.
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Name Symbol Quantity Expression in terms of other units Expression in terms of SI base units
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reply posted on 25-4-2008 @ 10:28 PM by TC Mike
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Tesla indeed had great stuff, had he been born in our own time his ideas & inventions would probably be accepted today. Back then the other
scientists won out over him & his inventions, because of their greed Tesla faded into history. We wish now we knew everything he knew & invented.
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reply posted on 26-4-2008 @ 12:33 PM by Pilgrum
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It probably wouldn't take all that much visible shaking to break sufficient otherwise rigid joints to make such a structure unstable. Resonance
doesn't need to be induced by direct physical contact either as subsonic sound can do it, if the resonant frequency is subsonic that is.
It's like a pendulum where just a tiny kick at the right point in every cycle is enough to keep the oscillation building up until it becomes
critical.
It doesn't fit all the requirements and observations with alterations in the structure causing variations in the frequency required but it does fit a
number of the symptoms without invalidating others. Definitely something to think about.
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reply posted on 26-4-2008 @ 12:46 PM by talisman
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This is very interesting, especially with the seismic analysis done by Laptop that to date has never been properly refuted by anyone. This is very,
very compelling.
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reply posted on 26-4-2008 @ 02:23 PM by gottago
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Agreed. if anything, one should be looking at the other end of the spectrum of Tesla's ideas; i.e., his scalar weapons. Simple resonant frequencies
aren't what we're seeing here. Weird effects of pulverized concrete, total disassociation of all building members, the rapidity of collapse, etc.
point in that direction.
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reply posted on 26-4-2008 @ 02:43 PM by talisman
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I put Tesla even above Einstein. His ideas are so far beyond anything, with so many inventions it isn't even funny.
You almost wonder about him sometimes.
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reply posted on 26-4-2008 @ 03:02 PM by gottago
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Absolutely, Tesla had an extraordinary mind. He would actually visualize his machines in his mind before building them, and test them there. When he
was satisfied they'd perform as he'd conceive them, then he'd commit them to paper.
There was only one other genius who could do that: Mozart. He composed in his head; he hadn't given the score of the last movement of one of his
symphonies to the concert master a few days before the performance, and when asked where it was, he tapped his skull. The day of the performance, he
sat down and wrote out the scores for all the different instruments as if taking dictation--some 20-odd minute's worth. Incredible.
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reply posted on 26-4-2008 @ 09:11 PM by FredT
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The bridge in question just an FYi is the Carquinez Bridge. Its about 45 miles North of where
I am. However its not nearly as big as the Golden Gate or Bay Bridge. THe span used int he episode has since been demolished.
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reply posted on 26-4-2008 @ 10:59 PM by _Del_
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Because of the metal fatigue caused by the tesla device! Ok, I kid, I kid. Yet I wonder... 
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reply posted on 26-4-2008 @ 11:31 PM by FredT
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 that or multiple quakes and almost 80 years or salt air not to mention increasing loads etc.
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 08:00 AM by Tesla
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Flagged!!
I think the WTC was a definite pull!
You can see the charges go off down the column of the building.
Plus being able to bring down #7 so quickly, it was already charged!
Here is a great Tesla documentary...
Nikola Tesla: The Missing Secrets ( part 1 of 4 )
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