Nikola Tesla's earthquake machine, vibration, natural frequencies and building demolition, page 1
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Topic started on 24-4-2008 @ 11:08 AM by Griff
While doing research on various building demolitions, I came across this. I did a search but not much came up other than how to build one.

Excerpt from the New York World

Telegram, July 11, 1935 -

Nikola Tesla revealed that an earthquake which drew police and ambulances to the region of his laboratory at 48 E. Houston St., New York, in 1898, was the result of a little machine he was experimenting with at the time which "you could put in your overcoat pocket."

The bewildered newspapermen pounced upon this as at least one thing they could understand and "the father of modern electricity" told what had happened as follows:

"I was experimenting with vibrations. I had one of my machines going and I wanted to see if I could get it in tune with the vibration of the building. I put it up notch after notch. There was a peculiar cracking sound.

"I asked my assistants where did the sound come from. They did not know. I put the machine up a few more notches. There was a louder cracking sound. I knew I was approaching the vibration of the steel building. I pushed the machine a little higher. "Suddenly all the heavy machinery in the place was flying around. I grabbed a hammer and broke the machine. The building would have been about our ears in another few minutes. Outside in the street there was pandemonium.

"The police and ambulances arrived. I told my assistants to say nothing. We told the police it must have been an earthquake. That's all they ever knew about it."

Some shrewd reporter asked Dr. Tesla at this point what he would need to destroy the Empire State Building and the doctor replied: "Vibration will do anything. It would only be necessary to step up the vibrations of the machine to fit the natural vibration of the building and the building would come crashing down. That's why soldiers break step crossing a bridge."


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A pocket sized machine that brings buildings down. Especially steel framed ones. With a wierd crackling sound. Note that many eyewitnnesses reported a strange crackling sound before each building fell.

He put his little vibrator in his coat-pocket and went out to hunt a half-erected steel building. Down in the Wall Street district, he found one&endash;ten stories of steel framework without a brick or a stone laid around it. He clamped the vibrator to one of the beams, and fussed with the adjustment until he got it.

Tesla said finally the structure began to creak and weave and the steel-workers came to the ground panic-stricken, believing that there had been an earthquake. Police were called out. Tesla put the vibrator in his pocket and went away. Ten minutes more and he could have laid the building in the street. And, with the same vibrator he could have dropped the Brooklyn Bridge into the East River in less than an hour.


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Mythbusters got close to replicating this machine. Although they couldn't get it to produce an earthquake (which was the myth they were busting), they were able to oscilate a bridge.

The other day I was flipping through the channels (hate to admit it), but came across mention of my man, Nikola Tesla. Of course, I was intrigued. It was on Discovery Channel's program, "Mythbusters". In this episode they set out to build and test Tesla's patented and legendary "earthquake machine", which weighed only six pounds. Tesla claimed he built one and attached it to a steel beam in his large building. He then tuned the machine, searching for a frequency of oscillation that would resonate with the steel structure. After a while he found the right frequency and the entire building started to quake violently. He had to take a hammer to the machine to get it to stop. Residents of the building evacuated and the police and fire department reported to the scene. The hosts of the show, who set out each week to, more or less, scientifically disprove common "myths" and legends, didn't follow the patent exactly and made two machines that didn't work. Then another guy built it and they finally had something that was producing results. A six pound, hand-held machine that was causing a massive steel beam to oscillate violently. They found a large steel bridge to test it on (I'm not sure which bridge it was, but it was massive). After tuning the machine extensively, they finally found a frequency that resonated with the structure and everything on the bridge was vibrating. A six pound machine was producing a rythmic vibration over a hundred feet from its location. They said it felt like a semi-truck was going by...constantly. Nevertheless, they "disproved the myth", because it didn't exactly cause an earthquake. Maybe not, but something else could.


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What are your thoughts?








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reply posted on 24-4-2008 @ 11:33 AM by CaptainObvious
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It is very interesting. I didn't see the mythbusters episode, but I would like to see what noise this would create.

Good stuff none the less.
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reply posted on 24-4-2008 @ 12:09 PM by Insolubrious
If they used a device like a tesla resonator to bring down the towers the building and surrounding ground would most likely be vibrating constantly rather than short percussive durations. As the building starts to resonate it would be affecting surrounding air pressures thus creating its own sound, a bit like a massive tuning fork. I would expect the volume would become overwhelming as these huge steel columns vibrate themselves and everything inside the building, and the vibration would be like a constant unnatural earthquake growing in intensity over a noticeable duration and would vibrate anything coupled to it.




I do believe it is totally possible to drop a building through resonation but it would look and sound very different to what we are seeing in the above video, and we would probably be left with huge slabs of concrete and sections of the building remaining, it wouldnt result in so much complete destruction and so much fine powdering of materials.

Note the explosive percussive nature of the sounds in the video above, much more like bombs than resonators.



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reply posted on 24-4-2008 @ 12:16 PM by Griff
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I can agree. I just wanted to see what other people thought about this.


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reply posted on 24-4-2008 @ 12:28 PM by gottago
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I've mentioned Tesla's pocket "quake" machine in a few posts and thought of opening a thread on it, so glad to see you got farther than I did with it.

There's no question Tesla's ideas on frequency and harmonics can produce destructive results--it's a fascinating area of science that leads in several directions, one being scalar weapons and HAARP arrays. Focused energy at a distance. Also to his little quake gadget at the other end of the spectrum.

Tom Beardon is the best-known proponent about all this; he believes the Soviets had scalar arrays operational in the 70s and the US caught up more recently--and he also claims there are rogue non-state actors with them, FWIW. But the little that is known about the subject and his claims for a remarkable black arsenal of "Tesla tech" gives one pause; some of it is really out there.

One claim though was quite compelling: IIRC the Soviets were working on a Tesla idea for a resonant tube as a weapon (the story goes that Stalin had Soviet scientists go back through scientific literature into the late 19th C to see if there was anything they could develop to leapfrog the US, and they came upon Telsa and experimented extensively with his ideas and patents). The idea was to induce a resonant frequency in a large metal tube that would act like a harmonic cannon. They raised the frequency in steps until they reached a certain level of hz that began to make the field people violently ill. They abandoned experiments in that range because they realized that the focused resonance could actually kill people. A few more steps and you're in literal tin-foil hat territory, with those claims of the gov't bombarding people with "mind-control beams."

You could see a scenario of literally vibrating the towers to pieces, in tandem with thermite and shaped charges. It could explain a lot: the pulverized concrete, the neatly sectioned core columns broken at the welds, the infamous seismic readings...but like insolubrious points out, it wouldn't be a version of the pocket quake machine but probably a scalar weapon, and here you're in an area as speculative as 4g mini-nukes unfortunately.

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reply posted on 24-4-2008 @ 01:04 PM by gottago
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You should go through Beardon's website; there's quite a lot of provocative material there, much of it pure speculation but not all. It's about the worst-organized site I've ever seen, a bit like an old curiosity shop of alternative science but some fascinating stuff in there, especially his view of Maxwell's original EM equations.

Here's a link to his weapons section, much of it regarding Tesla's scalar weaponry.


reply posted on 24-4-2008 @ 01:39 PM by Griff
Not to throw my own thread off topic but I found something of interest from NIST.

Fire-induced core column shortening detected. Due to heating from fires following the aircraft impacts and subsequent buckling, there was a shortening of core columns seen in both towers on floors at or near the fire-affected impact sites. Shortening of the core columns caused the floor system to pull the perimeter columns inward—the observed inward bowing that was seen minutes prior to the collapse of each tower. Significant thermal sagging of the floor system exacerbated the inward pull on the perimeter columns in WTC 2. Vertical loads carried by shortened columns were redistributed to perimeter columns, putting additional strain on their load-bearing capabilities.


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Are they saying that the heat from the fires shortened the core columns? Or are they saying that the core columns buckled, causing them to shorten?

If they are saying the columns shrank, then I'd have to call them imbociles. Steel (and everything else except for some things as in ice crystals) expands due to heat not contracts.

If they are saying the columns buckled from the heat, then they are admitting that the core failed first.

Which is it?

I thought their explaination was that the trusses pulled the outer columns inward. Not the core collapsed and pulled them inward?

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