Support HR24 for Impeachment Hearings Tomorrow. Bringing Bush and Cheney to Justice!

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posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 05:00 PM
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Support HR24 for Impeachment Hearings Tomorrow


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The historic vote on New Hampshire State House Resolution HR 24, introduced by 87 year old State Representative Betty Hall, will be coming to a vote tomorrow, Wednesday, April 16th. If adopted, New Hampshire will not only be the first-in-the-nation presidential primary but the first-in-the-nation on impeachment, employing Jefferson's Manual rules, whereby a single state legislature may direct Congress to initiate hearings. This avenue has never before been employed for a president or vice president, and so legal ramifications are not clear. What is clear is that legal scholars would have to get to work to decipher the meaning.
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posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 05:00 PM
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I've held hope that Americans will stand up to the injustice perputrated by our government. This is a start. We need to bring the guilty parties to justice.

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posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 05:04 PM
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AMEN. I don't know a single person myself, other than a single redneck ignorant cousin of mine, who doesn't want to see impeachment against the decider and darth cheney.


At least 85% of America wants this to happen.


If you don't want impeachment, then you don't want the truth to be known, because that's all it finds out. It isn't punishment. That would be decided later, if the parties are found to be in violation of the law.



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 05:04 PM
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The eyes and hearts of America are weary of Bush-Cheney law-breaking.

Just waiting and hoping this administration out is not good enough!
If Bush and Cheney are not firmly reprimanded for breaking the FISA law through impeachment, the new NSA powers will stay, and democracy is dead.

We need this in every 50 states, every able body to make this a reality. If not Bush 9/11 will be on our door steps once again.

This is a moment we can make a difference!

FISA law





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posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 05:24 PM
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1. Violating the United Nations Charter by launching an illegal "War of Aggression" against Iraq without cause, using fraud to sell the war to Congress and the public, misusing government funds to begin bombing without Congressional authorization, and subjecting our military personnel to unnecessary harm, debilitating injuries, and deaths.

2. Violating U.S. and international law by authorizing the torture of thousands of captives, resulting in dozens of deaths, and keeping prisoners hidden from the International Committee of the Red Cross.

3. Violating the Constitution by arbitrarily detaining Americans, legal residents, and non-Americans, without due process, without charge, and without access to counsel.

4. Violating the Geneva Conventions by targeting civilians, journalists, hospitals, and ambulances, and using illegal weapons, including white phosphorous, depleted uranium, and a new type of napalm.

5. Violating U.S. law and the Constitution through widespread wiretapping of the phone calls and emails of Americans without a warrant.

6. Violating the Constitution by using "signing statements" to defy hundreds of laws passed by Congress.

7. Violating U.S. and state law by obstructing honest elections in 2000, 2002, 2004, and 2006.

8. Violating U.S. law by using paid propaganda and disinformation, selectively and misleadingly leaking classified information, and exposing the identity of a covert CIA operative working on sensitive WMD proliferation for political retribution.

9. Subverting the Constitution and abusing Presidential power by asserting a "Unitary Executive Theory" giving unlimited powers to the President, by obstructing efforts by Congress and the Courts to review and restrict Presidential actions, and by promoting and signing legislation negating the Bill of Rights and the Writ of Habeas Corpus.

10. Gross negligence in failing to assist New Orleans residents after Hurricane Katrina, in ignoring urgent warnings of an Al Qaeda attack prior to Sept. 11, 2001, and in increasing air pollution causing global warming.




Contact, write, call and email your two U.S. Senators Representative before its too late.

Bring President George W Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney to justice, for the sake of all humanity!

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posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 05:50 PM
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Ive found HR 24

Here is a excerpt...


STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE

In the Year of Our Lord Two Thousand Eight

A RESOLUTION petitioning Congress to commence impeachment procedures.
Whereas, the executive branch is responsible for enforcing and guaranteeing these rights; and

Whereas, President George W. Bush and Vice President Richard Cheney have engaged in a pattern and practice of threatening litigation against states and people who refuse to institute mechanisms of voting that require votes to be counted in trade secrecy and outside the observation and control of citizens; and

Whereas, secret vote counting shifts control of elections from citizens to the executive branch, including the Election Assistance Commission, and any person capable of altering the trade secret software

.......... this goes on and on and on. Any kid out of lawschool could get him on atleast 3 of these crimes!



www.gencourt.state.nh.us...



The charges against the President and Vice President are miles long. I demand some got d@$$ answers. NOW!


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posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 06:01 PM
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For most of us, this would be a fabulous dream.

I think its too little, too late.

Nothing an "attack" wont fix. Remember that.



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 06:04 PM
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Oh thanks the lord. I hope this goes all the way. It needs to happen. These people are crooks of the highest order, and they done it by trying to convince us to give up our lives so they can line their pockets, often in our blood.

I hope this goes beyond impeachment and goes all the way to prison.



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 08:37 PM
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Last year, a method for impeaching the President or Vice President using a little known and rarely used part of the Rules of the House of Representatives ("Jefferson’s Manual"). This document actually empowers individual citizens to initiate the impeachment process themselves.



United States House of Representatives 110 Congress



Jefferson's Manual is a sort of interpretive guide to parliamentary procedure, and is included (along with the Constitution) in the bound volumes of the Rules of the House of Representatives. It is ratified by each congress (including the current one), and has been updated continuously through the history of our democracy.




"In the House of Representatives there are various methods of setting an impeachment in motion: by charges made on the floor on the responsibility of a Member or Delegate (II, 1303; III, 2342, 2400, 2469; VI, 525, 526, 528, 535, 536); by charges preferred by a memorial, which is usually referred to a committee for examination (III, 2364, 2491, 2494, 2496, 2499, 2515; VI, 552); or by a resolution dropped in the hopper by a Member and referred to a committee (April 15, 1970, p. 11941-2); by a message from the President (III, 2294, 2319; VI, 498); by charges transmitted from the legislature of a State (III, 2469) or Territory (III, 2487) or from a grand jury (III, 2488); or from facts developed and reported by an investigating committee of the House (III, 2399, 2444)."


Jeffersons Manual



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 08:47 PM
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i cant help but laugh every time a thread like this comes up. btw there are at least 200 already on this same topic.

get over it. its not gonna happen. and ill bet on that..



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 08:54 PM
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Starred and flagged...Thanks for posting this Master wii!

There will always be the negativists that bash this type of stuff, but IMO, this at least is someone trying, and attempting a movement for justice, instead of what the rest of america is doing---Just throwing their hands in the air and giving up out of hopelessness. I applaud this movement, as well as Vermonts actions. If this acts as a catalyst for bigger movements, then it was well worth the effort IMO!



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 09:13 PM
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Stared and flagged. There are rumors floating about Obama if president would have his A.G investigate the Bush administration for war crimes. Guess who I'm voting for. www.huffingtonpost.com...



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 09:16 PM
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Fabulous news!!

We can only hope this gets legs, and traction!

While we're at it, no more speaking engagements for TurdBlossom, or Gonzo, or Rummy, et al. No more money for any of them!!



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 10:28 PM
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I too wish I knew anyone with moral fortitude and spine in the Granite State. (I'm confident they exist, I just don't know them) The only person I 'know' (casual, tertiary acquaintance) is commonly referred to as "Hitler". 'Nuff said. I'm sure he thinks that Shrub and 'The Dark One' are a couple of pantie-waist amateurs posing as 'Goebbels-light'. Sickening really.

I would like to add that I hope all of these Neo-Con Koolaide chuggers aren't nearly as omniscient or omnipotent as we sometimes perceive them. A few of these clowns must be shagging young boys, or sacrificing poodles, or parading around in girl scout uniforms. Fer cryin' out loud people, we get video of UFO-OVNI's on this sight! Can't we get some incriminating dirt on the likes of Herr Cheney or Comandant Wolfowits?( maybe just a fuzzy shot of Scooter Libby in white thigh-high boots, a thong, pink boa, and Elton glasses singing "MY Way"....just a thought) There has to be some choice footage of what actually happened on the "fishing trip" on the Saudi Emirs yacht. "A mind is a terrible thing to waste". Whatever.

Right. I'll just go back to my corner and keep pressing my own rounds.



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 10:36 PM
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This is great news. Brattleboro, Vermont voted on impeaching Bush/Cheney already, but that was only on a town level. Check that thread, there's a list of towns/counties/states that have had votes on impeaching, and most of the towns that voted for impeachment passed their measures.

To have a state initiate a federal impeachment process would be fantastic and 8 years too late.

Even if this doesn't pass, this is surely a wake up call for the rest of the states and Congress to get moving.

These criminals need to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, President or not.





Originally posted by DaleGribble
get over it. its not gonna happen. and ill bet on that..



Its not gonna happen, or you don't want it to happen? I'll bet you have no idea.



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 11:30 PM
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It isn't in the stars.

Bush, et al., have less than a year in office.

The general election is right around the corner and the last thing the congress will want to do is eclipse the election with an impeachment.

Even if it does happen and there is a conviction, Bush will be pardoned, as well as Cheney.

There's also the lack of substantive evidence that Bush and Cheney have broken any laws and all the others on both sides of the aisle who would be implicated in any charge leveled against the administration, especially among the turncoat Democrats.



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 11:52 PM
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Where "resolutions" are concerned, this is what I am familiar with:

A resolution can be made as basically a vote. Like, we resolve that we support/don't support such and such.

I don't think that it is enough (from only one or two states, if passed) to make it "effective".

I could be wrong here. I'm sitting here in bed, typing away when I should be sleeping, so, no, I have not read the Jefferson Manual.

I just know that I have a drawer-full of resolutions for something that never came to the table... they are essentially meaningless. Had the subject been brought to the table, well, that is another story. Should it come to the table in the foreseeable future, they might still be meaningless, b/c all new people are on those councils and boards.

But, I am not a lawyer, just a lowly Gov't employee.



posted on Apr, 16 2008 @ 12:05 AM
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You know, I'm a lazy SOB but I'm getting up bright and early and calling every congressman in my state! This may be our last peaceful avenue to take. I hope everyone else isn't so lazy that they can't make a call or email for their liberty, freedom and justice!!



posted on Apr, 16 2008 @ 12:38 AM
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Started a thread on this three weeks ago and got very little response i guess three weeks to wait is just too long to get excited about something so trivial..
Could April 16th be the Day that Bush and Cheney finally pay?

Nevertheless best of luck with the process.



posted on Apr, 16 2008 @ 09:55 AM
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Government being instituted for the common benefit, protection, and security of the whole community, and not for the private interest or emolument of any one man, family, or class of men; therefore, whenever the ends of government are perverted, and public liberty manifestly endangered, and all other means of redress are ineffectual, the people may, and of right ought to reform the old, or establish a new government.

The doctrine of non resistance against arbitrary power and repression, is absurd, slavish and destructive of the good of all mankind.

Art.10, Right of Resistance
New Hampshire, Bill of Rights
June 2, 1784, never modified



Im ny own opinion, this government and administration have demostrated the highest level of perversion. I have my doubts that anything will come from this. But we are on the right track, and this will get the ball rolling.
Personally I want to see Bush escorted out of the White House in handcuffs.


These are the times that try men's souls,
The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will,
in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country;
but he that stands now,
deserves the love and thanks of man and woman.
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered;
yet we have this consolation with us,
that the harder the conflict,
the more glorious the triumph.

-Thomas Paine, The Crisis




Betty Hall's spokeswoman has released a statement:

Who's Afraid of Betty Hall?"
Concord, New Hampshire ----- We will know the outcome, soon. The People of New Hampshire have spoken, rallied and cried for Rep Hall's work to be heard in an open and honest free press. That has not happened, but today, the voice of the People of New Hampshire will be heard around the world. That shot will be carried via internet and some local stations and newspapers. The mainstream media, MSM will not cover the story. By the MSM not coving the true story of HR24, identifies themselves as "complicit" in the the crimes of the Bush administration and the stranglehold on our government, originally claimed to be by, for and of the People of the the United States.
--
Debbie Gibbons





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