Originally posted by indierockalien
I really rather think we aught to be blaming ourselves a bit more. I mean, evil can only be done with consent, and there have been plenty of red flags. Still, everyone just sat there and said "What am I supposed to do about it?"
The most people can seem to do is sign petitions and send letters, blaming politicians elected BY THEM for all of the problems they have ALLOWED to happen. A bunch of people, who have no idea what's really going on behind the scenes, blaming only two visible figureheads, like they are the two Evil Geniuses behind everything, and utopia will flourish, as long as they burn.... or something similar.
This is a witchhunt. Plain and simple. Bush and Cheney just did what we allowed them to do, what we gave our UNQUESTIONED support to. They just did their jobs, to be quite frank.
We pay them 500,000 dollars a year. The corporations and their own companies pay them millions, billions a year. Although, you no doubt researched thoroughly who you were voting for in 2000 and 2004, I'm sure.
Nobody should be brought to justice until we understand what is just.
People just don't get it. We can't punish others for our own neglect. We just need to wake up. Let the Bush and the Cheney go run away after they leave office. It's not like they won't have to live with the entire world dispising them wherever they go, anyways. It's also not realistic to think that two of the highest ranking politicians and rich businessmen could fairly be tried in a corrupt justice system, where money talks louder than a bloody glove. They'd just buy off or put pressure, or a hit, on whoever they needed to until everything was okay.
Besides, it's not like we CAN'T do anything ourselves. If you care so much, then go and storm the White House. Vigilante Justice, remember?
Go have a revolution and dispose of this corrupt leadership with violence, therefore ushering another corrupt violent leadership forth. Go fight battles when we should be feeding babies. Go after the politicians, while the corporations paying for those politicians to decieve us continue to make money off our ill health and misery.
Damn good idea. Burn a couple of assholes to make up for a couple hundred million asshats' stupidity.
HR 24, petitioning Congress to commence impeachment procedures. MAJORITY: INEXPEDIENT TO LEGISLATE. MINORITY: OUGHT TO PASS.
Rep. Pamela D Coughlin for the Majority of State-Federal Relations and Veterans Affairs: The majority of the committee believes that the world is in perilous and uncertain times and this House Resolution will encourage intolerance, violence and hatred around the world. Our President is the Commander in Chief. Our United States military has many troops along with many civilian contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan since the attacks on United States soil on September 11, 2001. This House Resolution will encourage terrorists to continue their attacks and hurt the morale of the United States’ military forces and civilian contractors throughout the world. It will also undermine our troops’ ability to pursue and accomplish their mission, which is the protection and security of the United States of America. Vote 10-5.
Rep. Eleanor Glynn Kjellman for the Minority of State-Federal Relations and Veterans Affairs: This bill is a petition to the US House of Representatives to commence impeachment procedures. Under Section 603 of Jefferson’s Manual of Parliamentary Practice, a state legislature may bring this action. Many citizens and several representatives of the NH House of various political persuasions and parties, Republicans, Libertarians, Independents and Democrats, appeared before the committee in favor of this resolution. It appears to be not only bi-partisan but also multi-partisan. This resolution does not impeach the president, but requests that the US House begin an investigation regarding the various grievances of the petitioners. It is not our prerogative in the NH House to argue the merits of the grievances, or to seek proof of their validity, indeed that is the purpose of the impeachment inquiry in the US House. Impeachment is a tool of accountability – part of the checks and balances process of our democracy - which is available to the citizens in our democracy. The people have a right to petition their representatives and we have a duty to respond and act – regardless of the timing, convenience, political expediency or other concerns which are secondary to the preservation of the democratic process. We believe the process of impeachment should be exercised to maintain accountability in the office of the Presidency.
The mainstream media, MSM will not cover the story. By the MSM not coving the true story of HR24, identifies themselves as "complicit" in the the crimes of the Bush administration and the stranglehold on our government, originally claimed to be by, for and of the People of the the United States
Originally posted by percievedreality
Found this from a "House-record No. 28 Document" dated on April 11, 2008. Gives both sides of the argument, you know, unpatriotic versus accountability. Same BS arguments, different day. It appears to have a 10-5 vote, which I do not understand?? Isn't today the final vote on the matter? Does it matter anyway? Congress is not answering the will of the people (85% of them) why would they begin to listen to state legislations??
Originally posted by indierockalien
I really rather think we aught to be blaming ourselves a bit more. I mean, evil can only be done with consent,
Originally posted by DamnedDirtyApes
Even if they do impeach, what does that really mean to those people? Don't misunderstand me, I would love to see these turds put away for their shopping list of crimes.
Originally posted by dgtempe
For most of us, this would be a fabulous dream.
I think its too little, too late.
Nothing an "attack" wont fix. Remember that.
Originally posted by centurion1211
So, all thinking people should really ask themselves before gleefully supporting something like this - are you ready for the long term consequences?