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PARA: ATS Ghost Hunters: Antar and mrwupy at the Crescent Hotel, Eureka Springs, Ark.

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posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 05:12 PM
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Well as I said in the above post I was a leader in the anti-orb movement until the Crescent Hotel.

mrwupy! Where Are You???




posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 05:36 PM
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I was at work. I just got home and will make another post in an hour or so. Let me eat something and take a shower.

I'm going to try and finish my part of this thread tonight. Hang on folks, the rest is on the way.



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 06:18 PM
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Hi welcome back! BTW I never thanked you for the breakfast the other morning. It was not the Champagne Brunch that sleeper mentions in a few posts up, but you know still and all the company could not be beat. I will look forward to continuing later myself.

For now I am off to check on the Portobello, organic spinach, Chicken and Mozzarella lasagna smelling so good.

Wish you could join us.

Folks mrwupy is an exceptional human being that I would not doubt could be anything he chose to be in this life. He has walked with the Angels and listened to the essence of God throughout all time and eternity.

He really does deserve the utmost respect for his talents, abilities and intelligence.

mrwupy remember the last morning as we said our good byes? I was lmaoroahbsnortingalmao. (IMHO)



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 06:33 PM
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OK, sorry I took so long folks, I'll try to finish my contribution to this thread tonight.

I'm going to start this round of pictures with the one Antar has been waiting for. She described it a few posts earlier.




Now I realize we're not proving anything so far. To be honest, that isn't our goal. Our goal is to share a fun filled night we had with other members of the board.

Let's move on to the basement, shall we?

Many people didn't make it this far. When it came time to explore the really spooky places they said to hell with that and went home, or more likely out to get a stiff drink. Who could blame them, Just looking down the hallway was enough to make me claustrophobic.




Still, Antar and I hung in there and made it to the very back. This was the area where most of the really creepy stuff took place. According to the guide this is one of the original autopsy tables from way back in the day.




These days it's used by the maintenance men as a lunch table and apparently where to toss odds and ends.

Most people who made it this far were having a good time. Little did we know something seriously spooky was about to take place. I can't explain it, I don't know if it can be explained. I'm saving that story for my next post and round of pictures.

In the meantime I'll close this post with the following.

Did this lady realize the sheer danger she was in? Look above her, It's another killer dust bunny, or could it be a disembodied spirit?




I'll let you be the judge.




I'll be back with a final round of pic's in about an hour.

Love and light,



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 07:05 PM
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Do You see the face in the orb? I most certainly do. I get the impression that it is 'him'...



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 07:30 PM
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OK, here's where I conclude my part of this thread. I'll still be replying mind you, I just won't be putting up any more pictures.

There was an episode of TAPS awhile back where they explored the Crescent. In it they went into a basement room and got a thermal image of a man who wasn't there. If you haven't seen it yet, check it out before we go further.

TAPS at the Crescent.

As Antar and I explored we went into the same room. Here's the infamous locker #2.




Then somebody got the bright idea to turn out the lights while in the room to take some dark pictures.




OK, it's dark and were just snapping away. One of the pictures came out with this:




and I have no idea what that is. It's probably just a reflection or something but it sure looked weird when I saw it. Here's a better look:




It was then that something I can't explain happened. There were perhaps half a dozen of us in the room, it was dark and one lady said, "My camera just quit working." Another person said, "So did mine." another said the same and then Antar chimed in that hers had quit as well.

Everyone's camera had quit working at the exact same moment, as if an EMP had gone off in the room. These were camera's of varied makes and models, some were cheap and some were quite expensive. No two camera's were alike.

Still, every one of them quit working at the exact same moment, as if some ghost had decided picture time was over.

We turned on the lights and left the room and they all started working again.

That was really weird. I can't explain it.

I have one last picture to share. They said that sometimes the ghosts come out of the mirrors or can be seen in them. When I saw this picture I just knew we had caught one.




See the face of the lady in the bottom?




Then I realized she was on the tour also, though I'll never tell who she is


In conclusion:

Did we prove anything with our little exploration? Nope. Did we have a good time? Absolutely.

It feels really good to just turn off the computer every now and then and actually go explore something and maybe look for the truth, rather than hope to find it reading post's on message boards.

I hope you'll do some exploring of your own, take lots of pictures and share them with us, just as Antar and I have done here.

Tomorrow night I'll get back to work on the UFO convention thread. That's why we were in Eureka anyway.

Still, This little side trip to a haunted hotel was more fun than I ever could have imagined. It was allot better than the convention.

Love and light my friends,

wupy



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 07:47 PM
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Good job guys! Man, I really need to make a real-life friend on ATS so I can get into these kind of shenanigans!



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 09:00 PM
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Super awesome job MrWupy and Antar! Great piece of investigative journalism and with lotsa PICS. Its refreshing to see some firsthand accounts of what transpired with narration to the images. Love it.


Cant wait to see more pics from the trip. Keep em coming gang.



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by sleeper
it even snowed a little that Sunday morning.


Yeppers, as I was leaving town on Sunday morning the snow was coming down.

Were you at the convention Sleeper? I'm trying to put together a thread on it but so far it's turning out ugly. Even worse than the podcast I made about the convention last year.


I need to give up reporting and go back to pure creative writing. I'm just not cut out to be an inky wretch.

Antar and I were sitting right by Linda Moulton Howe during the convention. I could have put her in a headlock and given her a noogie. Thats how close we were.


I can thank Antar for that, the seat snatcher of the world.



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by antar
Sometime in the past couple of years they removed the rocking chairs as they became a total nuisance to the Hotel guests and the lobby received calls all night long from tired guests requesting that the creaking, non stop rocking chairs be removed from the rooms.


Oh Kay, i'm hooked.

Star + Flagged

when i was a child, me and my father would take trip's to my grandmother and grandfathers house and there was an eternialy rocking chain on the porch. i believe my great-grandmother's spirit was the one rocking the chair.

my earliest recognizable memory is sitting on the stairs, i hear a creaking noise and look behind me, nan is sitting in the chair like she used to and i think nothing of it but turn back to watch the waves forming on the lake, then i remember that a year ago nan "went to heaven" and look back to the chair, she's not their and i start to cry.



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 09:40 PM
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Thanks mrwupy, I agree that it was a most interesting experience. We did leave the Crescent and head straight for the Lone Star Bar to rub elbows with the guests and speakers back at the convention.

I have to say something about little Sarah.

You see the Dr. would encourage his Nursing staff to bring their children to work from time to time to show the outside world a much more kid friendly picture of the Baker Cancer Cure Hospital.

One such little girl of about 3 or 4 years old was named Sarah.
One day Sarah was hanging out far above the ground level at the entrance to the tunnel on the 3rd floor landing.

There is a square area of about a 10x10 space which rises up surrounded by a deep rich wooden handrail. At the point in the tour before going into the tunnel where it is said that there was a collapse, is a waiting type area with bathrooms at one end.

We were told that one fateful day Sarah had been calling her Mother and leaned over the top floor railing too far and fell to her death. It is often reported by Hotel guests Sarah will clasp onto the legs of men who enter the bathroom. Men have been known to go screaming out in terror on many occasions.

Now as we were walking down the hallway or more like utility tunnel the atmosphere becomes heavy and you can really sense the path that the Dr. traveled everyday. As people slowly walk through you cannot help but sense the collapse where it is said several employees also died.

Then as you get closer to the morgue, like a shaking and frightened child your legs begin to tremble and it becomes harder to move forward knowing where the tunnel ends.

The Paranormal Lady and myself both felt like our legs would not be able to carry us, but you want out of the tunnel so you keep moving.

As we entered the morgue I realized that over half of the other guests did not follow. What was left were the few we both felt most connected to on the tour. The screaming Lady was not with us.

It was not so much fear, more a feel for the scared and hurting children that had been escorted there for examinations and death.

Again and with camera in hand I get the feeling to move on without the group. Walking into a back room filled with old antique beds and discarded furniture, I made my way instinctively to an old heavy door. Reaching for the dark rustic antique metal handle, my hand almost on the knob when it began to turn slowly in the opposite direction I was going to turn, I then quickly reached out and opened the door cautiously full well knowing nobody would be there.

Stepping up to the door frame a small built man stood with an amused look on his face, (I jumped back and screamed in my throat) he stepped through the door stopping only to give me a silent warning,"You be sure and lock that door" he said in a soft deep voice. He was dressed like an old time Mortician. mr wupy tell me what the man said because it was just after he passed that the cameras all died.

We spent another several minutes down in the morgue examining the table, talking with others and snapping some pictures, mrwupy got one of him with a saw across his neck as he leaned back on the slaughtering sink.

When the rescuers first found the morgue it is said that the walls were lined with bottles and glass jars filled with formaldehyde and floating body parts.

One more point I would like to make is that at the beginning of the tunnel was a cat lying curled up in a chair. A couple on the tour with us were freaked out about the cat and said it was batting its paws under their door the night before and at some point they must have opened the door for a minute and the cat came into their room. The cat scared them terribly for some reason.

As we were leaving the Hotel I notice an aristocaratic style picture hanging on the wall of another cat sitting on a pillow. The cat had feirce golden slanted eyes and an intense if not slightly angry look on its face. A big yellow orange tabby. It is said that he was the last resident cat who lived to be over 17 years old when he passed away.

I am tired and need to rest, but if I forgot anything not mentioned I will post. mrwupy do you recall any of the stories told about the individual rooms and their occupants? There is so much information to be shared that what you get through us is just a small portion of the actual history of the Haunted Crescent Hotel.




posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by Enthralled Fan
I apologize if I get ahead of your story here. I tried to search for Dr. Norman Bains and could not find any information on the fellow.



His name wasn't Bains, It was Baker. Here's a link to the guy.

Dr. Norman Baker

The guy was a real freak.



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 10:02 PM
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Originally posted by antar
mrwupy do you recall any of the stories told about the individual rooms and their occupants? There is so much information to be shared that what you get through us is just a small portion of the actual history of the Haunted Crescent Hotel.



Well, there was the room where a small, deceased boy will run into the room and jump onto the chest of who ever is in bed.

When we were told that story I remember thinking that for the rates they charge a tall, living woman had better run out and jump on mine.

It seems every room has it's stories.

It's really a fascinating hotel whether you believe in ghosts or not.



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 10:26 PM
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Now why did the above link to Mr Baker not mention the multipal deaths during the decade he was at the Hospital? About the experiments and the cruel oppression he caused so many? The Hotel is a most dark and foreboding place regardless of the maniac that ran it so long ago.
This will be one trip I will not soon forget.



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by mrwupy

Originally posted by sleeper
it even snowed a little that Sunday morning.


Yeppers, as I was leaving town on Sunday morning the snow was coming down.

Were you at the convention Sleeper? I'm trying to put together a thread on it but so far it's turning out ugly. Even worse than the podcast I made about the convention last year.


I need to give up reporting and go back to pure creative writing. I'm just not cut out to be an inky wretch.

Antar and I were sitting right by Linda Moulton Howe during the convention. I could have put her in a headlock and given her a noogie. Thats how close we were.


I can thank Antar for that, the seat snatcher of the world.


I didn't go to the convention. I live in KCMO and was invited to brunch with Linda since she was in the neighborhood. I was there Saturday night and Sunday only. It never occurred to me to give her a noogie.



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 11:20 PM
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OMG! You were not the guy in the back room at the Lone Star Bar keeping Linda and Angelina Joiner 'enthralled' with the story of being a walkin??? Preparing to sell the book about the devouring black hole and the aliens that will be coming to save the select few like your self? No tell me it is not so!



posted on Apr, 16 2008 @ 07:59 AM
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Originally posted by antar
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OMG! You were not the guy in the back room at the Lone Star Bar keeping Linda and Angelina Joiner 'enthralled' with the story of being a walkin??? Preparing to sell the book about the devouring black hole and the aliens that will be coming to save the select few like your self? No tell me it is not so!


I hope you are kidding, me the select few, don't make me laugh


That was not me. Now back to what this thread is all about, ghost stories



posted on Apr, 16 2008 @ 11:22 AM
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According to that bio, Baker only had the Hotel/Hospital for 2 years prior to going to prison. Furthermore I see nothing written about all the children. Seems like something that would be included.

From what I can decipher the guy was nothing more than a huckster that injected his patients with a concoction of various garbage. It wouldn't surprise me though if his legend grew to include all sorts of horrific angles to the story.

I would think the maintenance crew would be the ones to talk to although the whole ghost thing is the draw of the hotel. I'm sure anyone that works there is instructed to really play it up. Without the doctor story and the ghosts I would expect occupancy to drop off.

Sleeper, I was in KCMO once. It was the longest 2 weeks of my life. Dreary place if you ask me. However, the song is right because the woman I was seeing turned out to be crazy.

On Edit: I was actually only there for one week, I guess it just seemed like two....or more.

[edit on 16-4-2008 by jbondo]



posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 04:33 PM
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If many of the stories had not been validated by the Ghost Hunters, I doubt it would be making headlines now. They put it on the map for certain.

It was most certainly an extremely hauted Hotel. Yet if you were one of the few that made it all the way through the tour you would not need the reports from the Ghost Hunters to tell you that.

If you go there it states on the hotel flyer you may or may not experience anything of the paranormal. It must be on an individual basis. I know we were in the thick of paranormal activity on our visit.

For me it was more of a precognition of events, I would always feel to move off on my own for experiencing, yet it would always seem to coincide with group events like the electronics all going out at once, and the smell of the sweet tobacco pipe. The ememse heat from the orb I captured was a very physical occurance.

I feel deeply for the patients that were less than known as they must have been the ones to have suffered greatly. The high profile patients were in less danger for sure.

I am very glad to have had the opportunity to take the tour and would love to go back and stay the night.



posted on Apr, 20 2008 @ 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by antar

I am very glad to have had the opportunity to take the tour and would love to go back and stay the night.


Now theres a thought. During the UFO convention next year we could stay at the Crescent instead of the Tall Pines. Perhaps we could even hook up a live feed to ATS which would monitor the room for the duration. I'm just not sure what kind of internet access they have. Plus we'll need a better camera.

Sounds like something to plan on....hmmmm.....





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