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Topic started on 6-4-2008 @ 08:18 AM by Skyfloating
Every year millions of people just disappear without a trace. Ive always wondered why not too many people are asking more questions about this. Where do they go? Sometimes their cars or planes (steve fossett) disappear with them. As if they never existed.

Disappearing people in the U.S.

In the U.S. alone there are reports of over 10,000,000 people going missing per year. Out of this figure 500,000 are never found. Some of these people are victims of crimes but some are just gone. Sometimes it is not one person that disappears but a group of people. A man and his wife were sleeping. in a motel on a trip across the country in 1959. When she woke up, he was no longer by her side and had vanished, never to be seen again. Everything of his was still there, including his clothes, money, luggage, car, etc. Now let me ask you this, who would run off naked? This is a strange story indeed. Another couple was driving across country and was never seen again and this was in 1970. Their car vanished also. Were they the victims of some modern day highway men who killed them and scrapped their auto?


It has been estimated that a small part of these disappearances are due to crime and kidnapping. But what about the rest? A few theories:

* Someone does a "time-slip" and enters a parallel universe or another dimension.

* "Rapture"

* A less known theory is that it is possible to enter other dimensions while dreaming in your sleep. The idea is that if you practice "lucid dreaming" (dreaming while knowing that you are dreaming) there is the danger of entering another world or time-line...by which your existence and also your body disappear in this world.

* "Spontaneous Human Combustion" (a process investigated by some parapsychologists whereby bodies suddenly burn to ashes)

* Abduction by aliens

* Mass kidnapping by clandestine operations

* Other not yet thought of explanations.


Do you know someone who has gone missing?

Or do you know someone who knows someone who has gone missing?

How do you explain all the people disappearing?

Anyone have any good links, statistics or books on this subject?

[edit on 6-4-2008 by Skyfloating]


reply posted on 6-4-2008 @ 08:28 AM by NetStorm
Whoa...."In the U.S. alone there are reports of over 10,000,000 people going missing per year"
10,000,000 ??? a year? Per this info,
Census
there are U.S. 303,792,008, in thirty years those would be gone (not counting births to replace those missing, nor imigrants)
Honestly, don´t you think we would notice such a HUGE decline in population
Just seems high to me..
Edit for more info

"By the end of 2005, there were 109,531 active missing person records according to the US Department of Justice. Children under the age of 18 account for 58,081 (53.03%) of the records and 11,868 (10.84%) were for young adults between the ages of 18 and 20.[1]

During 2005, 834,536 entries were made into the National Crime Information Center's missing person file, which was an increase of 0.51% from the 830,325 entered in 2004. Missing Person records that were cleared or canceled during the same period totaled 844,838. The reasons for these removals include: a law enforcement agency located the subject, the individual returned home, or the record had to be removed by the entering agency due to a determination that the record is invalid"
From Wiki
Missing Person

As the below poster stated, even 500000 is high....




[edit on 6-4-2008 by NetStorm]


reply posted on 6-4-2008 @ 08:31 AM by Karlhungis
reply to post by NetStorm



The article also says that of those 10,000,000 roughly 500,000 remain missing. Meaning that most of them turn up eventually. 500,000 is still a large number though, don't get me wrong.


reply posted on 6-4-2008 @ 09:12 AM by Enthralled Fan
reply to post by Skyfloating



People who are in a witness protection program can disappear for all intents and purposes.

Also, I have known a person who was in an abusive relationship and had children that were abused also. They disappeared, also, but on purpose to get a way from the abuser.


reply posted on 6-4-2008 @ 12:56 PM by Enthralled Fan
reply to post by Skyfloating



When you had the conversation with this policeman, did he happen to mention where he thinks some of these people disppear to?

It would also be interesting to know if any of the missing ever showed up out of the blue years later. Did you happen to ask?


reply posted on 6-4-2008 @ 01:55 PM by jackinthebox
(OOOkay. I'll try this again.)

These first two articles are about a young man who went missing, never to be heard from again. I was just at a wedding a few weeks ago, at the restaurant where his empty car was found in the parking lot.

www.poughkeepsiejournal.com...

www.poughkeepsiejournal.com...

This one is a mystery that unfolded on 9/11/2001 but may not have anything to do with the attacks. I knew this family years ago.

query.nytimes.com...

This next one is often talked about whenever the serial killer is brought up. This guy kept the bodies of murdered prostitutes in his house, but I don't think he is actually responsible for this missing person. I also have intimate knowledge of this case as well.

www.poughkeepsiejournal.com...

This one I know little about.

scaryny.com...

Here is some more data on local missing persons cases.

ccadp.proboards40.com...

It seems to me that this region may have a higher than average level of this sort of activity. Or is this the norm?

[edit on 4/6/0808 by jackinthebox]


reply posted on 6-4-2008 @ 02:25 PM by banyan
interesting thread...very interesting.

to combat the "running away" explanation, it's harder than one thinks to successfully not be found. it would take a lot of planning [to get a valid and genuine fake ID, to fabricate a fake life with past history included], and no one would have to be looking for you [just running away, not running from the law].

i knew a guy who "disappeared" from his university. he went missing around midnight and was last seen in shorts, t-shirt, and flip flops. he left his wallet, keys, clothes, pretty much everything. his mother freaked out and hired a private investigator to find him. they transmitted his name, ID, and appearance to local and state authorities to be on the look out. he disappeared on the east coast of the states. they found him two weeks later entering back into the states from canada on the west coast.

runaways will be found, because typically they have not planned things out as much as they should. they have no motivation to fake their identity or alter their appearance for they are not running from the law, just their dismal life. they are usually driven by emotion or madness, which means really means recklessness.

of course there will be exceptions as always.

500,000 is an insane amount of people to not be accounted for. i am theorizing that these people are mostly no-namers, people of little social status. though i find it as plausible that if a celebrity cannot be found and after so many months or whatever of coming up with nothing, they'll claim they have died and so a fake body with fake story to the public.

that could explain this phenomena, "the highest strangeness i've seen"
www.abovetopsecret.com...

thanks skyfloating for bringing this up...very interesting!
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