woah! I was wondering what happened to this story. There was a thread where we all discussed this event openly. I for one always said this had nothing to do with self defense, but more with racism in Texas. This news proves my theory right. Nice update. I can't believe Mr. Horn still remains a free man. He should have been sent to prision for the murders.

I think the obvious point here is being overlooked.

That point is, if the two scumbags had been at their own home or at work instead of out in these peoples neighborhood commiting a felony home invasion they would still be walking and breathing right now.

When you knowingly and willingly enter another man's home illegally then you forfeit your right to complain about the repercussions of your actions.


Personally, I think Joe Horn deserves a medal, and if there were more people like him out there you wouldnt see people every day on the evening news that have been raped and murdered in their sleep.

One thing is for certain, I will bet you the next group of criminals looking to break into a law abiding citizens home will keep on cruising right past this neighborhood with fear in their hearts.

Bravo!!!! To all in that community for chasing these worthless dirt bags out of their neighborhood. I think the guy who shot the crooks was wrong by shooting to kill and not just wounding them to stop them for getting away with any goods and teaching them a lesson, Although this will send a good message to all who think about robbing someones house. If someone tries to get in my house they would be killed not wounded so they could not come back and sue me or try to get revenge. Now if this guy had done that in Florida he would be in jail unless the crooks had a gun.

Turning this guy into a "hero" is ridiculous, he shot two unarmed guys in the back

I'm all for the right to self-defense, but this guy wasn't defending himself or anyone else.

If they were white he would have been charged with murder, plain and simple.

I don't know if "hero" is the term I'd use but I agree with what he did. Both the victims had long criminal records and were armed (they had a crowbar for their break & enter). I would have shot them as well, probably a few more times to be honest. We can't waste time on scum like this and more times than often the so called judicial system will have them back out on the streets soon anyways. Guess that's not a problem now I seem to recall a song that depicts this event clearly....hey man nice shot.

Back to the thread leave it to the Black Panthers to use this case to further their agenda. Kudos to that community.

brill


[edit on 6-4-2008 by brill]

I'm a certifiable 2nd Amendment nut and firearms owner. I don't think what Joe did was right for many reasons...however I feel NO SORROW for the two criminals that got shot...none. They made their decisions and paid the consequences.

I agree that the penalty paid far outweighed what was owed for those two criminals. They should not have had to die for simple theft.

This thread isn't about that though. It's about the Black Panther party trying to exploit and get mileage out of a tragedy.

I'm proud of you Texas. The Black Panther party tried to exploit an already bad situation and you shoved it right back down their throats. I wish it would happen more often.

This isn't about racism, it's about right and wrong. What the BP party did was wrong. They had their butts handed to them for it.

The world would be a better place if more people had the guts of Joe Horns neighbors.

Hmm.. Black Panthers, the other KKK.

Glad to see the neighbors stuck up for Joe, though I hand it to the Panthers for having the balls to protest at Joe's house. You know, where Joe has a history of shooting people that don't belong lol.

If only there where more people like Joe..

We wouldn't have so many people in prisons.

[edit on 4/6/2008 by Rockpuck]

I have a question for those who think that Mr. Horn deserves to be in prison for what he did.


How was he to know wheather or not these men were armed? How was he to know if his neighbor or his neighbors wife or children were home at the time? Would it have been better for him to sit by and do nothing (like you people obviously would) or even worse, call the lazy doughnut eaters to come and save the day? Police response time these days is by and large poor at best.

My girlfriends brother had his home broken into, and it took L.A.P.D. officers over four hours to respond after the fact. Would you as a decent human being be able to live with yourself if you saw two men breaking into your neighbors house and did nothing, only to later find out that someone was murdered or raped as you twiddled your self righteous, politically correct thumbs and did nothing?

How would you live with yourself if your neighbors child was abducted and murdered knowing full well that you could have put a stop to it if you had only shown some guts and some geniune concern for your fellow man? I would never forgive myself. Horn had no idea what these men's true intentions were. He saw what was taking place and instead of ignoring the situation he took the initiative to put a stop to something that he knew was wrong.

I could only hope that my neighbors would have the fortitude to stand up on my behalf like that. The reality is that in this day and age of pessimism and self centered "me first" behavior, most people would have looked the other way. This is the same reason a woman can be raped in broad day light on a busy street while having her cries for help ignored by people who would rather not get involved. It's a sad commentary on our country when good men stand idely by and allow things like this to happen.

Eventually it will be YOU who will need the help of a neighbor, maybe then you will understand. I only hope that your neighbors do not subscribe to then same self centered, uncaring belief system that you do, because it may just end up costing you your life.

That was awesome. I wish I could have been there!! And yes he is a hero, I wish I had a neighbor like him!!

Let me explain something to you bleeding heart liberals: Those guys were here illegally; bet you didn't hear from the liberal biased media that it took the coroner 3 hours to ID them due to their mulitple (fake) forms of ID - that were ALL different.

They were repeat criminals. So you think sending them to jail for a few more years was going to cure that? Hell no! They would get out and do it again and maybe even kill someone. Maybe it would have been your family member? Think about it. I'm glad the man help save some of my tax dollars!!

You yankees have no idea the problem we are having down here due to all the illegals. The crime rate has doubled thanks to them and the Katrians! Until you have walked in our shoes I wouldn't judge!

Sorry this is just a very sore issue with me.

The one thing that is completely beyond me is why all these black racist groups are defending two illegals from South America when Latino gangs have declared open season and basically a race war in the southwest against black people? Just because they were of the African persuasion does not mean they are going to call them "brother". They are from another culture. The only reason they were there was because Joe Horn was white. Period.

This is a great video showing support against these race hustling nimrods and showing support of someone who was defending his neighborhood. Simple lesson: Don't break into people's houses or you might get shot, no matter what you look like. Common knowledge where I live. Cheers to two less thieving pieces of "human" debris in the world.