so am I the only one who thinks this is news?

lol. guess so.

Are you talking about that 'course in miracles' she's pumping out?

It's a new age fad. It teaches things like 'jesus isn't necessary' and 'you don't need the rugged old cross'.

The person who invented it died in a very odd way.... in complete dispair and exclaiming hopelessness. I read that last week someplace. I'll see if I can dig it up.

Info on 'A Course in Miracles' .... (stuff Oprah doesn't tell ya')

Helen Schucman was a Columbia University professor of medical psychology. She claimed to channel a spirit starting in 1965. This lasted 7 years. The inner voice claimed to be Jesus. She published these teachings through 'the Foundation for Inner Peace'.

The course says that there is no sin. That Christ Crucified has little relevance, our focus should be on our own power, there is no need for salvation, and evil doesn't exist. that finding God is through finding self, that our focus should be on our own limitless power, that there is no need for salvation, that the Name of Jesus is a "symbol," and that evil -- at least in the way Christians view evil -- does not exist. At least that's what people who took the course claim. I haven't read it and I dont' care to.

Helen Schucman had a husband named William Thetford. He was also a Columbia professor. He was a 'rare books expert'. He also had a reputation for being 'sinister'. It is claimed by him that he was employed as an agent of the CIA -and that he was present at the first fission experiment conducted by physicists assigned to the Manhattan Project.

During the last years of her life, Schucman fell into a "black hole of rage and depression" (According to author Father Groeschel) "She spewed psychotic hatred for all things spiritual, even her own Course in Miracles."

Also according to author Father Groeschel - at the end of her life a priest came to visit her and sat on her bed. When he did, "she cursed in the coarsest barroom language you could imagine, 'that book, that [---] book.' She said it was the worst thing that ever happened to her. I mean, she raised the hair on the back of my neck. It was truly terrible to witness."

So anyways ... that's about the author of The Course in Miracles that Oprah is pushing. Is that what you are referring to? That course?

Oprah is a dumb millionaire. She just got lucky.

Its foolish for her to be endorsing anything else than her radio show and tv show. She's gong way overboard, and feels has absolute power thru her magazines, books, endorsing this, endorsing that.

Shut up Oprah. Do what you do and leave people to do their own thing.

I think its time for me to send her Master Reiki Healing.

She cant even find happiness within.

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I agree, it's more new age fad. Thanks for posting the video.

Oprah does have a cult-like following for sure.

I found it hilarious when she started her magazine. Not that she started a magazine, but that she's on the cover of every issue. How's that for some self-love? That still makes me laugh.

Cult Oprah has started I guess, now that she has her own "church." I am not an Oprah fan so that's probably why I didn't know this before. The scary part of it is the power in numbers she wields. When she announces her book club pick, I have seen news articles that say immediately Amazon.com is SWAMPED with orders.

Remember when she talked how bad red meat was from a health stand point? I guess it caused sales to drop so badly that the Cattlemen or some sort of Meat Industry entity sued her. Now that's some power I'd say, will be formidable when paired up with some new age religion...don't drink the kool aid!!!

Also I just remembered this, when she got behind Camp Obama...I remember thinking, if Oprah ever gets political or decides to run for office, she'd easily be voted in. Scary indeed.

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Ya'll need to take notice - the woman who invented the Course in Miracles - her husband claims to have been CIA and involved in The Manhatten Project. (at least according to the book)

William Thetford was his name.

CIA
Manhatten Project
The wife hears voices for 7 years.
In the end - she acted possessed.

There could be something very odd here .. ya' know?

2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.


This is nothing new. Traditional Christianity is intolerant of many things. In PC terms, tolerance is to be desired above everything including traditional Christianity.

Originally posted by LateApexer313
I found it hilarious when she started her magazine. Not that she started a magazine, but that she's on the cover of every issue. How's that for some self-love?

I thought the same thing about her girls schools in Africa.
It's a good thing and all - but take a look at a picture next time.
It says in HUGE letters - Oprah Winfrey's .. and then in smaller
letters ... academy for girls.

These are the signs on the buildings.
EVERYONE has to know that it's Oprahs building and Oprahs money.

Self love. Yep. I laughed too.

A Course in Miracles is all about self love ..and self power ... (and no salvation .... and no cross .... etc ) It fits her personality. However, the way the woman who invented it died .. yikes.

A Course in Miracles reminds me a bit of scientology.
scientology is much more controlled and run by big business.
But it reminds me of it for some reason.

Wow, thanks for that info FlyersFan!

Like I mentioned before, I don't really know what to believe when it comes to religion...
but you do have to take into consideration who actually wrote or started it.

Take Scientology for instance.
Personally, I wouldnt go for a religion that was written by a know fiction author.
thats just me.

I do agree with the whole inner consciousness thing... to the extent that we all have a conscious we should try and connect with, but that does not mean there is no god either.

Originally posted by Odessy
if you ask what African children need, I'll bet they say food.

According to the article I posted - Oprah had a huge feast for the kids when the Academy opened. The girls had never seen so much food so they ate and ate until they vomited everywhere. And they snuck food into their uniforms and into their bras to take home to their starving families. They ruined their uniforms with hoarding food.

Oprah may be black, but she doesn't understand what it means to be African.

Oprah wants gratitude on a planetary level. She's not happy with all the businesses she has, she wants to cover the globe.
What she doesnt do is have humility. Instead of Plastering her picture, and her name everywhere, she should feed the children and provide if she wants to...anonymously.
That's what is considered a true act of kindness and giving.

Next we'll be calling her Mother Oprah! There's nothing wrong with "giving" and even attaching a name, but when you have your fingers in so many pies, i really think the time to just give for the sake of giving would behoove her more.

She wont stop until she gets a Country named after her, schools, better yet a statue someplace. I think she's pretentious and she's doing all this stuff for the wrong reasons.

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