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Wisconsin Man in Police Standoff Over Unpaid Taxes

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posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 02:15 AM
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Wisconsin Man in Police Standoff Over Unpaid Taxes


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VIOLA, Wis. A landowner with "strong anti-government attitudes" barricaded himself in his rural home Thursday and fired shots at SWAT officers trying to search his home and arrest him, authorities said. No one was injured.

Richland County sheriff's deputies tried to serve Robert Bayliss, 60, with a lawsuit seeking to evict him for failure to pay property taxes back to 2001 on his home and 18 acres.

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posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 02:15 AM
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Just like Ed and Elaine Brown! I feel that if you disagree with the how the government spends your money, you have the right to stop giving them money and you SHOULD!

I wish everyone who disagrees with how the US govt spends their taxes would simply deny the IRS the payment.

If millions did this it would send a huge message to the IRS. Not only in lost revenue, but the much greater cost of handling the redtape, overtime, etc etc to react to the financial strike of the rebellious American tax protestors.

UPDATE: Wisconsin Standoff Ends With Surrender


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posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 02:17 AM
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"strong anti-government attitudes"
Sorry but I love the way they try to label us. Just another way to bash us.



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 02:29 AM
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why dont they just leave him alone. He's almost to retirement age,
they want to make him homeless now.

It makes me so angry that people can make up all these rules that
the rest of us have to abide by.



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 02:31 AM
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Originally posted by Everythingyouknowisalie
"strong anti-government attitudes"
Sorry but I love the way they try to label us. Just another way to bash us.


Seriously! Who got paid-off or intimidated to add that little nugget to the official story? I bet all it takes to be labeled as a person with "Strong Anti-Government attitudes is to be an active member of ATS. My other question is... is there such a thing as "weak anti-government attitudes?"



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 02:32 AM
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Its because he has "strong anti-government attitudes" . And your next



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 02:34 AM
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Look at how they write the article to make these people look bad "a person who had very strong anti-government attitudes " " two tax evaders holed up for months".

I think people who stand up to the govt are brave, it takes a lot of guts to not be a sheeple.



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 03:17 AM
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The man owed less tan $6,000 dollars. The cops show up with SWAT and burn his house down. Surrender? More like avoiding being burned alive!

The cops burned his house down to get him out. They didnt even wait a day!
The police acted like cowards.



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 04:58 AM
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The fire had been contained Thursday evening. The cause remained under investigation, Gudgeon said.


ill give you a clue...IT WAS THE TEAR GAS CANISTER!!!!!



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 05:36 AM
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He ought to have paid $17.76 less than they asked.

Its true that constitutionally he should be able to deny payment, but realistically this is either going to het his property confiscated or him killed... its not worth it.



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 06:16 AM
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Originally posted by Damocles

The fire had been contained Thursday evening. The cause remained under investigation, Gudgeon said.


ill give you a clue...IT WAS THE TEAR GAS CANISTER!!!!!



It's possible he torched the place to keep them from having it. I probably would.


Bayliss was known as "a person who had very strong anti-government attitudes and beliefs" and who would carry a rifle and show it, Southwick said.


Is that subconsciously implying that anyone that would carry a rifle is "a person who had very strong anti-government attitudes and beliefs" as a way to turn the sheep against guns?



[edit on 4-4-2008 by Simon_Boudreaux]

[edit on 4-4-2008 by Simon_Boudreaux]



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 07:34 AM
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We need to find a way to get lots of these people together in one town or if there's enough of them into one state.

The reason these things always turn out to be "one nut defying authorities" is because the anti-government types are all spread out across the country.

Maybe New Hampshire or Montana should start advertising itself as a "destination for militant libertatians" or something?

Hell I'll move. I've been looking like hell to find a state to get to that will let me actually be free. I think the first time I get to purchase a firearm that is specifically banned in my home state on CT I'll fall on the floor and start crying with joy.

We need to flock to one town, one state and put up a damn wall or something to keep the self-righteous socialists of NY, CA, MA and CT out. Maybe put a few of their heads on pikes. After that we build the wall higher to keep the federales out.

I don't care if some guy refuses to pay taxes because he hates the way his money is spent, is just cheap, or is simply a crazy schizoid. They're all heroes.



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 07:44 AM
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I admire his courage, but one man against a SWAT team and armored vehicles is suicide.. I'm glad he didn't get killed over his convictions.

The one thing I've learned in life is You have all the rights you can afford.


[edit on 4/4/08 by LLoyd45]



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 07:45 AM
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So you want to start a state full of people that don't pay any taxes..?

How long do you think it would last before the sewers are backed up and the streets are piled up with garbage? Education, Police, Fire, Ambulance, Medicare, Social Security, etc, etc..

I don't like paying taxes anymore than the next guy, but hey nobody's going to provide you with services for free.



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 07:58 AM
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In a free country theres a difference, Between Direct taxes which are BS, and Indirect taxes which one can avoid as a form of protest.

Direct taxes are an abuse of the Constitution, They are meant of be one time and equally apportioned for emergencies and such.

Yet now they are mandatory and go towards paying off a debt which is accumulated via a system which is unconstitutional and avoidable...

Indirect taxes pay for nearly everything in your day to day life.

Direct taxes fund an overbearing an oppressive Government stretched far past its original intent.

Indirect taxes in part gave the people power, Now we no longer have the power to control our country, it controls us.

One shouldn't be paying rent for his own property....

Its unamerican.




[edit on 4-4-2008 by C0le]



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 08:01 AM
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Originally posted by mythatsabigprobe
So you want to start a state full of people that don't pay any taxes..?

How long do you think it would last before the sewers are backed up and the streets are piled up with garbage? Education, Police, Fire, Ambulance, Medicare, Social Security, etc, etc..

I don't like paying taxes anymore than the next guy, but hey nobody's going to provide you with services for free.



Who needs any of that stuff? Those things become necessary only when a population reaches a certain level of density like in cities or large towns. When your nearest neighbor is 15 miles away none of these things matter.

You may like the services but not the taxes I hate the services and despise the taxes. But thanks to a society that thrives on dependence there is no place for people like me. Even if completely self-reliant sooner or later somebody is going to come for property taxes. Then my choices are be shot to death or go to prison.

I don't need a public sewer connection, I don;t want police or fire "protection" I don't want "social security" or "medicare." I want to be left completely alone and be allowed to live and die without any outside interference.

I've said it a million times. I don;t want any of these damn "services." I want the government out of my pocket and out of my life.



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 08:56 AM
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Guy you couldnt of said it better. People have become so reliant on the government and not even know it its crazy. But this is what they want you to be in debt and reliant on them and big business. Im one of those people who others dog on. Has nothing to do with anti government and everything to do with being pro constitutional there is a difference.



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 10:28 AM
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well, i wont get too detailed but ive got personal experience with CS grenades.

playing the odds here and having to bet between the guy starting his house on fire while he's in it or a CS grenade...safe moneys on the CS grenade.

lol dont buy into the "he's crazy" spin.
just saying...



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by 44soulslayer
its not worth it.


Not to harp on you, but what if our founding fathers had this attitude? We'd still be calling the queen mother our queen.



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 10:53 AM
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I admire those who would have the backbone to stand up to this kind of government overbearing.

Personally I wouldnt have the guts unless my neighbours also stood with me... the lone voice of reason cannot win against the government's control of minds in the current day and age. It takes a revolution to create a patriot out of most people, and a few patriots to create a revolution. This man is undoubtedly the latter.



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