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I have noticed that not one single person defending these people has answered the many queries of parallel situations.
What if these people had been Muslim? Buddahists? Satanists? Snake charmers? Believed in Hoodo? Star People? Spiritualists?
What if their religion told them that they must do other things detrimental to their children? What if they believed in sexual union with their children? Or multilation? Or beat them until they couldn't walk? Or forced them to fast until they were ill?
Intercession isn't about the state telling parents what to do. It's about realising that children have rights too, that they are not property. That parents are, I'll say this again, Guardians - not owners. And if they fail at this guardianship, then the state has an obligation to the welfare of the children, defending their rights. In this case, the right to live.
I've made exactly the same point 2 or 3 times, and not one advocate of prayer as a form of healing has responded. Bah.
Originally posted by TheRedneck
We do have laws that protect children. It is illegal for me to kill my son for disobeying me. It is illegal for me to lock my daughter in a closet for 6 months and feed her stale bread and water. I am required by law to see to my children's education, whether it be through public schools, private schools, or home-schooling. I accept these laws as necessary to protect the rights inherent in children as future adults to some basic degree.
Originally posted by 27jd
And you should also be required by law to seek medical attention and not allow your child to die a slow painful death for the sake of an archaic belief. That should be required by law WAY ABOVE schooling, etc. If you choose to allow your child (i.e. future adult) to die of something ENTIRELY treatable without drugs, which insulin is NOT, it's part of our bodies, then decent people should kick in your door and take the suffering child to safety. Plain and simple.
Originally not posted by 27jd
And you should also be required by law to seek religious services and not allow your child to die a sinful eternal death for the sake of an oppositional belief. That should be required by law WAY ABOVE schooling, etc. If you choose to allow your child (i.e. future adult) to partake of something ENTIRELY sinful and without prayer, then decent people should kick in your door and take the suffering child to safety. Plain and simple.
Originally posted by 27jd
reply to post by OhZone
First of all, learn how to post. Second, I love when people try and turn it around to attempt to make those who care about the well-being of children out to be intolerant, bloodthirsty monsters because we advocate action to stop the abuse and neglect of children. Your "god" trusts you enough to allow you to reproduce, and you spit in your "god's" face by allowing the child to come to harm in his or anybody else's name. If our thoughts scare you, TOO BAD. Get used to them cuz they aren't going anywhere. Keep crying about "attacks" on Christianity. I attack ALL organized religion equally. Religious extremists like yourself have no place in today's civilized world, EVOLVE, like your "god" intended you to, and join the civilized world. Or don't. Whatever.
I'm not hiding, nor have I ever hidden the fact that I detest organized religion. I have no tolerance for people who believe in fairy tales told by ancient LIARS to control the masses.
This story, Christian Voice, is DIRECTLY linked to Christianity
Originally posted by Christian Voice
We are currently at war with EXTREMIST MUSLIMS. Are all Muslims extremists? I really don't think so. We're not all like that.