Mahdi Army arrested 17 American soldiers ( Not Confirmed Yet ), page 2
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reply posted on 27-3-2008 @ 03:14 PM by WestPoint23
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Read the thread before you post, it's a fictional story, you can wipe the foam around your mouth now.


reply posted on 28-3-2008 @ 11:16 AM by Harlequin
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No the Mahdi army is run by Iran and are basically a copy of Hesbola


are you paid to make this crap up?

www.iht.com...

The US themselves say Iran isn`t behind them , and Iran say they are not - and Muqtada al-Sadr hsa no direct connections with iran.

next you`ll be saying they are tied to Al-Qaeda


reply posted on 28-3-2008 @ 11:26 AM by pavil
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Your article doesn't really back your claim. In it is says that elements of Iran's government are backing and arming Shia militia's in Iraq. Sadr has had ties with Iran in the past and was even over in Iran for an extended period in the last few years. To claim he is not infuenced by them is a dubious claim at best.


reply posted on 28-3-2008 @ 11:55 AM by Christian Voice
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Oh man this is gonna be so off topic, but your avatar is way cool. Green lantern is a true P.I.M.P.
I have a friend that has GL's ring tattood on his ring finger. Too cool.
Sorry, now back on topic.


reply posted on 28-3-2008 @ 05:26 PM by Sky watcher
Originally posted by Harlequin
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are you paid to make this crap up?


The US themselves say Iran isn`t behind them , and Iran say they are not - and Muqtada al-Sadr hsa no direct connections with iran.

next you`ll be saying they are tied to Al-Qaeda



That is a widely known fact and no they are not tied to AQ, Have some more respect that that.


reply posted on 28-3-2008 @ 07:52 PM by goosdawg
An excellent analysis of the current situation in Iraq is provided by an article posted on AlterNet:

AlterNet | Five Things You Need to Know to Understand the Latest Violence in Iraq

I began a thread concerning this article here:

ATS | Five Things You Need to Know to Understand the Latest Violence in Iraq

Basically, once again, the U.S. is backing the wrong guy:

"Iraqi forces" are, in fact, "Iranian- (and U.S.-) backed Shiite militias"

Every headline this week has featured some variation of the storyline of "Iraqi security forces" battling "Shiite militias." But the reality is that it is a battle between Shiite militias -- separatists and nationalists -- with one militia garbed in Iraqi army uniforms and supported by U.S. airpower, and the other in civilian clothes.

It has always been the great irony of the occupation of Iraq that "our" man in Baghdad is also Tehran's. Maliki heads the Dawa Party, which has long enjoyed close ties to Iran, and relies on support from SIIC, a staunchly pro-Iranian party, and its powerful Badr militia.


2/3rds of Iraqis don't want Maliki, and they don't want the U.S. presence, just as 2/3rds of Americans also don't want their troops over there.

When are the majority of citizens of these two countries going to get what it is they want; an end to this stupid "conflict" and the Americans back home where they belong?


reply posted on 29-3-2008 @ 02:13 PM by Sky watcher
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So we have the surge and it works. Then everyone says hey great now we can bring our troops home. Bush says no, That pulling our troops out will not be a good idea. I'm sure the Shia terrorist were keeping their heads down while all this is going on because the Sunni AQ types were being hunted and killed big time and then they are pretty much stomped out. Bush says no, That pulling our troops out will not be a good idea so the Shia terrorist say OK well then we are not going to just sit here and wait for you to leave then. Now Sadr starts trouble and he will be the only one left to crush. Hopefully they crush him and his stupid terrorist then our troops will be home free. Victory will be ours, Even if it was a stupid Idea in the first place.


reply posted on 29-3-2008 @ 06:03 PM by Sky watcher
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What is with the ignorance? We waterboard someone who may be trying to murder thousands.
Terrorist don't care!! They love death right? They butcher their hostages and blow up innocent women and children on a daily basis. They don't care thats its their own people that they kill in their own neighborhoods so why should we care if we waterboard one of their evil asses.
Were do you come up with your logic?


reply posted on 29-3-2008 @ 07:11 PM by jsobecky
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Originally posted by ergoli
I hope those soldiers, being war crimes suspects, get the same treatment the US gives terror suspects: waterboarding and electroshock torture. I would love them report these things on aljazeera for the world to see what a criminal regime the US has become.


Well, I guess that would be preferable to what the terrorists usually dish out - beheadings and execution.

Does your beloved al Jazera write about the atrocities committed by your terrorist idols?


reply posted on 30-3-2008 @ 02:21 PM by biggie smalls
A few updates on the Mahdi Army and Sadrist showdown:

Al-Sadr Pulls Fighters Off Iraq Streets

Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr said Sunday that he was pulling his fighters off the streets nationwide and called on the government to stop raids against his followers and free them from prison.

The Iraqi government quickly welcomed al-Sadr's apparent move to resolve a widening conflict with his movement, sparked Tuesday by operations against his backers in the oil-rich southern city of Basra.

Al-Sadr's nine-point statement was issued by his headquarters in the holy city of Najaf and broadcast through loudspeakers on Shiite mosques. It said the first point was: "taking gunmen off the streets in Basra and elsewhere."

He also demanded that the Iraqi government stop "haphazard raids" and release security detainees who haven't been charged, two issues cited by his movement as reasons for fighting the government.


I don't see the US surge having anything to do with this. The Iraqi government did this on their own, and that's definitely a positive step. Maybe we can leave now that the Iraqis are figuring out how to control their people (I hate the word control...).


However, the Sadrists are not giving up their guns, nor should they:

Aide to Iraq's Sadr: "No handover of arms"

Followers of Shi'ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr will not hand over their weapons as part of a move to end a week of fighting in Iraq, a top Sadr aide said.

The aide, Hazem al-Araji, also said that Sadr's followers had received a guarantee from the government that it would end "random arrests" of Sadr followers.

"The weapons of the resistance will not be delivered to the Iraqi government," he told journalists at Sadr's office in the holy city of Najaf after distributing a statement from Sadr calling on followers to stop fighting.

Sadr's statement also called for the government to halt arrests of his followers and implement an amnesty law to free prisoners.

"We confirm that there were guarantees taken from the Iraqi government to fulfill all the points in this statement. Thus, no more random arrests," he said.

The Iraqi government launched a crackdown on Sadr followers in the southern city of Basra last week. Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki ordered them to surrender and has offered cash in return for heavy and medium weapons handed over by April 8.


No arms will be traded for blood money from the Iraqi government...
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