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Originally posted by stumason
I can spot a council estate person from a mile off, just by how they look.
Originally posted by easystreet
I work in an area of high disadvantage in England...... on a HUGE council estate. At the end of the day I return to my 'middle class' home 5 miles away....
It is not as simple as sterlising people, there are many other issues... some listed below:
of those I work with - where teenage pregnancies run at 10%... those young people make the choice to get pregnant, most of them not for the benefits. They get pregnant because they want someone to love, that will love them back... like a 'real doll'. For these young people who have poor quality of life it is a real positive choice.
Many people on these estates are working, however they earn minimum wages which gives them a low income. What you find is that family life is very important to these people, even if it is a different way of living than perhaps we may be used to.
I know whenever there is a problem on estates, the residents close ranks and support each other. Everyone knows everyone and although there is conflict, there is also a cameradrie which I think most people have lost over the years as we have become more affluent.
Parents I meet on benefits are largely uneducated.... didn't attend school much and left with little or no qualifications.
This is a cycle of deprivation which goes on and on through generations... sterlising people would not necessarily break this cycle.... it would be selective breeding.
We need to educate people and work with them to give them quality of life, pride in themselves and ambition to get out of the situation that they are in.
Originally posted by Niall197
All this talk of chavs is just a snobbish spasm ... by folks who find themselves slipping down the pecking order for whatever reason. They need someone to blame so, hell, why not blame those at the very bottom of the social pile ?
They don't bother blaming those rich people or corporations who, by the use of loopholes, manage to not pay a ha'penny in tax ... avoiding billions of pounds in tax
... they don't bother blaming themselves as they pay for that house repair "cash in hand" or as they collect their interest tax free from their savings accounts.
They don't blame themselves for sending their kids to private schools - these businesses which benefit from tax free status too due to their alleged charitable status.
The middle classes are even worse than the chavs ... at least with the chavs you know they're just robbing you blind ...
Na lets just blame that single mother down the road for all the country's woes. That £59.15 she gets to keep herself every week, well my God that'd make such a difference to the nations finances. What's that ? £5 billion a year ? A drop in the ocean.
The middle classes have some ENORMOUS chips on their shoulders.
Originally posted by neformore
An MP can claim £4000 for a kitchen ontop of their allocated salary (which they vote for by the way)
Thats only £503 less than the average weekly payment of £86.66 across a year.
Shall we sterlise them too?
Originally posted by _Phoenix_
reply to post by 44soulslayer
I worry that you support this.
Your problem is that you assume that people receiving benefits are unintelligent, scum and useless, I find that, well "unintelligent".
Quite a few of the people in my school who were top in the class, very clever, were on benefits.
Your judgements worry me.
I also worry that you start to blame these so called "unintelligent" people for who is in charge of the country. I think you need to stop generalizing.