Sept 11 Conspiracy, 30 years in the making., page 10

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No, America doesn't suck. The liberal totalitarians "suck" because they always assume America is bad. If you really think that America sucks, you should go somewhere else, perhaps Germany, where they killed more than sixty million people in the last two wars. Or perhaps you could go to Venezuela, where Mr. Chavez will really appreciate your protests; maybe his secret police will spare you once.

Wake up and appreciate how great this country is. Get over the left wing pseudo intellectual thinking. It really is totalitarian. Read about totalitarianism. You'll be surprised how many liberals are totalitarians.Read Ayn Rand and watch Fox News.

Jazzmajor

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Last Sept., I took a flight from San Francisco to Washington, DC.
While en route, I ordered a 'snack pack', cost me a whole $7.00
It contained a bunch of crackers and a can of tuna. The tuna came in a metal can, with a PULL OFF lid of heavy duty steel.
Having grown up amongst the Apaches and Navajos, I could have used that lid and a weapon to cut throats - even do a bit of scalping if I were so inclined. (The TSA took my P-38 can opener)
I showed this to the chief steward(ess):
She laughed and said; "Relax, there were no hijackers on 9-11, just holograms".
So I got home and sent a couple of letters to the FBI: No response.
So I drive to the nearest office and have a FTF with a special agent.
He was totally non-plussed.... what no one cares that a passenger can obtain a sharp weapon while on a flight?
Being a retired cop with a few nickles (who doesn't have to work) I reviewed every single bit of video and statements concerning 9-11.
the stewardess was correct, there were no aircraft hitting buildings (or the ground) on 9-11.
We have now caused a lot pain to some primitive and nasty people, but there were no Arabs or Moslem's on those flights.
I hate to think of the karma which this nation will have to pay :^(
Pray for us all.

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Originally posted by Olise
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It is truly amazing how much energy is being pured into 9/11 conspiracy. There is a testimony that sheds light on this subject, which can be accessed at waterofshiloh.com.... You cannot, after reading through that testimony, remain convinced that 9/11 was a conspiracy.

Its under construction,,,oh well,,,but i'll give my two cents on why your dead dead wrong.



22,000 gallons of jet fuel cannot disintegrate 500,000(the weight of each tower) tons of concrete and mild steel including building 7. It just doesn't happen that way.
And the shock wave impact or any damage from the planes entry did nothing to the result of the collapse. If that was the case the Japanese would have won the pacific with there Kamikaze tactics.


I suggest you truly inform yourself with construction/design and structural/civil engineering knowledge. Once you do. You'll understand.

Originally posted by ADVISOR

Hegelian Dialectic

I have pointed out the formula, putting it all over ATS, but I finally got it all figured out.

It was a Covert Intelligence Agency fund raiser, read between the lines, Christians In Action, made sure Covering Intel Actions, and Cut-Outs In Action took care of the event.

This could be the most indepth, and complete compilation of events and reports related to 9/11 on the web. In all the years I've been digging, this is by far the most impressive yet. Starting not to long after the Munich attack, just a few years, and tracing those tied through history to todays most elusive terror leader.

This timeline based collection of articles begins with the "Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act Becomes Law" and end with current events mentioning " Pentagon Intends to Try Six Alleged 9/11 Conspirators, Will Seek Death Penalty". Three decades of news reports, magazine articles, Senate releases and more.

CIA Director Prefers Saudi Plan to Bribe Taliban over Direct Action against Bin Laden'
Complete 911 Timeline project

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it is pretty interesting but I don't think it is compelling evidence of a long term pre plan for 911. Its speculative and circumstance and with any social issues one can connect the dots using all different types of logic. I have trouble adhering to meta historically planned conspiracy theories. I think single point conspiracies like 911 or JFK are more readily defendable than Meta conspiracy theories. That's why I don’t subscribe to the secret society stuff either.

But thanks for this, I had never come across this time line before

Originally posted by Buckjackson
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Last Sept., I took a flight from San Francisco to Washington, DC.
While en route, I ordered a 'snack pack', cost me a whole $7.00
It contained a bunch of crackers and a can of tuna. The tuna came in a metal can, with a PULL OFF lid of heavy duty steel.
Having grown up amongst the Apaches and Navajos, I could have used that lid and a weapon to cut throats - even do a bit of scalping if I were so inclined. (The TSA took my P-38 can opener)
I showed this to the chief steward(ess):
She laughed and said; "Relax, there were no hijackers on 9-11, just holograms".
So I got home and sent a couple of letters to the FBI: No response.
So I drive to the nearest office and have a FTF with a special agent.
He was totally non-plussed.... what no one cares that a passenger can obtain a sharp weapon while on a flight?
Being a retired cop with a few nickles (who doesn't have to work) I reviewed every single bit of video and statements concerning 9-11.
the stewardess was correct, there were no aircraft hitting buildings (or the ground) on 9-11.
We have now caused a lot pain to some primitive and nasty people, but there were no Arabs or Moslem's on those flights.
I hate to think of the karma which this nation will have to pay :^(
Pray for us all.

What airline were you on, anyway? And wow, a stewardess basically comes right out with one of the supposed 'hoax' scenarios like it was a fact. It would indeed be interesting what the flight crew members says about 9-11 when nobody else is around. And it is interesting, to say the least, that this 'theory' was tossed in the 'hoax' bin when it is really quite possible.

I've always speculated about the possibility of holograms being used. It's commonly accepted that the military has technology that is 50 years or so ahead of what's available to the general public. That being the case, considering how holographic technology is improving even out here in the civilian realm, I can easily imagine what capabilities are actually available at the military level.

So those mystery white jets circling around at all of the scenes... maybe those were actually projecting the images/noises of the jets to cover up the approach and strike of the missiles. And maybe the technology isn't perfect yet, so you could see the plane from some angles but not others. so some of the footage had to be edited to add the plane.

And certainly the holes left by the 'aircraft' in the WTC were not at all what you'd expect. The images show the plane slicing into the buildings as neat as if they were slicing into butter. But if those wings and tail and all went thru the exterior of the buildings, shredding themselves as they did so (since no lightweight aluminum or carbon fiber are going to slice thru harden steel like butter), it seems quite reasonable to think that 1) there would be tons of debris falling down from the face of the hole and even after, shreds of plane dangling from the steel rebar. Instead they were such neat holes, no trace of airplane shred to be seen, nor was any debris seen falling to the street below in the videos.

And it would explain why some of the witnesses of the pentagon 'plane' said they saw it roaring over the freeway but after it hit the pentagon, it just disappeared. Well, I'm thinking a hologram of an airplane disintegrating completely on impact would be a bit of a stretch, not knowing what they actually are capable of, but for sure, there wouldn't be any way to maintain the holographic image once people were walking thru it.

Oh and Shanksville.. sure would account for the different aircraft the witnesses reported seeing, or not seeing as the case may be. But the white jet was there too, for sure. Most of the witnesses speak of it circling at least once, some say twice, before it left the area quickly.

And it isn't the average american having that karma to pay. It is those slimy PTB, and their flunkies who are trying to get full control of our country's government for their own nefarious schemes and plans of world domination, we US citizens included. But they are still trying to break us & get our guns away from us. That's their major hold up, from what I speculate. Just as Fleet Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto (Japan WWII) once noted, “You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.” (I'd throw in quite a few hand guns nowadays too! *lol*) TPTB know it too, so any blatant take-over attempt is pretty much out. Instead they are trying to be very careful and covert.

And while they will try to use our already existing infrastructure, the fact remains, our constitution gives us the right to throw off our government if we feel our country has been covertly taken over by a group hostile to the constitution and it's redresses. Of course the Patriot Act (yah, patriot--what a misnomer) makes that illegal now. *shakes head* But I believe, ultimately, that the Patriot act is secondary to the constitution and the case can be made that the Constitution by rights is the primary document for use by we the people, not their artificial and anti-constitutional "patriot act".

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