Gordon Cooper Astronaut Comes Forward

Originally posted by Nohup

Originally posted by Starwatcher
Yet another credible witness coming foward with these tales of ufo's. When are people going to stop denying the fact earth is being visited by ET from other planets...

Exactly how are you making the huge jump from UFOs to aliens from other planets? Walk me though that line of thinking, if you will. Thanks.

Cooper does emphatically state in the video that the discs he saw over Europe were extraterrestrial spacecraft.

Originally posted by projectvxn

Originally posted by Tuebor
When will one these "professional" expert witnesses use common sense and make a personal copy of footage/video/image before handing it over to the aurhorities/governement? I'm sick and tired of hearing "stories" without hard evidence.

This was a man in the military. Why would he risk a life long career to appease anyone's curiosity? And this isn't just some "professional" this is a man who helped pioneer the human space program.

It was also a different time, just after WWII, when technology and science were on the march, our economy was great, and people actually trusted their government. The cracks in the system hadn't yet appeared to most people, let alone become the gaping crevasses we've come to live with today.

hey man what the hell, the videos been taking down? Anyone know where i can watch this on a alternate website?

Gordon Cooper is not the only Apollo austronaut who has made some amazing statements about UFOs/alien life:

In one of the strangest stories in recent years, former Apollo astronaut and Senator JOHN GLENN made a March appearance on the NBC comedy "Frasier" in which he made following comments. Although many have dismissed them as simple humor because of their context -- one of the most popular comedy's on television -- when you actually watch the program, listen to the words and observe Glenn's demeanor, it becomes much harder to dismiss this as “simple episodic comedy.”

JOHN GLENN said: "Back in those glory days, I was very uncomfortable when they asked us to say things we didn't want to say and deny other things. Some people asked, you know, were you alone out there? We never gave the real answer, and yet we see things out there, strange things, but we know what we saw out there. And we couldn't really say anything. The bosses were really afraid of this, they were afraid of the War of the Worlds type stuff, and about panic in the streets. So we had to keep quiet. And now we only see these things in our nightmares or maybe in the movies, and some of them are pretty close to being the truth."

The following remarks were made by NEIL ARMSTRONG at the White House on WEDNESDAY, JULY 20, 1994 during a ceremony commemorating the Apollo 11 mission:
"Today we have with us a group of students, among America's best. To you we say we have only completed a beginning. We leave you much that is undone. There are great ideas undiscovered, breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of the truth's protective layers. There are places to go beyond belief..."

EDGAR MITCHELL in St. Petersburg Times, FL, February 18, 2004:
"A few insiders know the truth . . . and are studying the bodies that have been discovered," said Mitchell, who was the sixth man to walk on the moon.
Mitchell, who landed on the moon with Alan B. Shepard, said a "cabal" of insiders stopped briefing presidents about extraterrestrials after President Kennedy.

GORDON COOPER:
According to a taped interview by J. L. Ferrando, Major Cooper said:
"For many years I have lived with a secret, in a secrecy imposed on all specialists in astronautics. I can now reveal that every day, in the USA, our radar instruments capture objects of form and composition unknown to us. And there are thousands of witness reports and a quantity of documents to prove this, but nobody wants to make them public.
Why? Because authority is afraid that people may think of God knows what kind of horrible invaders. So the password still is: We have to avoid panic by all means"
"I was furthermore a witness to an extraordinary phenomenon, here on this planet Earth. It happened a few months ago in Florida. There I saw with my own eyes a defined area of ground being consumed by flames, with four indentations left by a flying object which had descended in the middle of a field. Beings had left the craft (there were other traces to prove this). They seemed to have studied topography, they had collected soil samples and, eventually, they returned to where they had come from, disappearing at enormous speed...I happen to know that authority did just about everything to keep this incident from the press and TV, in fear of a panicky reaction from the public"

Im sorry for posting an old thread.

Ive worked out how to properly search the forum now so it wont happen again.

HarrY

No need to apologize. As we members mature so do our views and opinions, thus old threads dug up become new again with fresh discussion.

I for one, with the stuff in this thread, have to go back and re-think my original position concerning this subject...something that you do not see a skeptic like myself admit to very often.

Sorry if re-iterating information for the benefit of those who don't have it is such a bother to you. You know ATS has been getting a hell of alot of new members. You're just going to have to deal with this sort of thing for a while. And even if it is "old news" it doesn't take merit away from what is being put forward.

reply to post by IgnoreTheFacts

The true skeptic takes an agnostic position, one that says the claim is not proved rather than disproved.

Source | Pseudoskeptics and Disinformants on ATS

A star for you, my fellow respected forum member.

Sorry to bring this dead horse up again, but I believe this specific line of investigation should deserve more thought and attention. Here we have several people that have a better chance of "being in the know" than your average UFO nut job, and they are stating things that most of us want to hear.

What, in your opinions, would be the next logical step in following this up?

I have several ideas, but need to leach of some of your minds in order to flesh them out, lol.

Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
Sorry to bring this dead horse up again, but I believe this specific line of investigation should deserve more thought and attention. Here we have several people that have a better chance of "being in the know" than your average UFO nut job, and they are stating things that most of us want to hear.

What, in your opinions, would be the next logical step in following this up?

Too bad Cooper has passed on; it would be nice to try and push forward FOIA requests on the footage he says was taken at Edwards. A signed legal affidavit from Cooper himself attesting to its existence would have made it at least marginally more difficult for the PTB to don that #-eating grin they usually pull out for this stuff and say "What footage? We don't know what you're talking about". Or has this already been attempted, and they swept it under the rug anyway?

The level of secrecy in this supposedly "free" society disgusts me. And despite what some say about any "War of the Worlds" panic scenario, I have the distinct feeling the secrecy is NOT to protect us, but to benefit the secret-keepers. Unfortunately they're holding almost all the cards in this game. Unless and until ET comes forward and discloses its own existence none of what's being kept secret will ever see the light of day.

Alan Bean is one of the Apollo astronauts who is very much alive. He also is an artist, and has painted many pictures based on his and the other astronauts adventures on the moon. He has his own website where you can see his paintings. Just Google his name. Much interesting stuff here, and I think it is possible that mr. Bean is trying to tell us something with some of his paintings.
Just take a look at the reflection in the astronauts visor in the painting called "Pete and I" or the one called "Red Ribbons". And what about the painting "Mankind Rock" from 1993. The stone that the astronaut is holding looks rather strange (and very geometrical) in the reflection in his visor. Alan Bean repainted this picture in 1994 ("Mankind Rock Revisited), and the stone in the astronauts hand doesn't quite match the reflection in the visor in this painting either.
So, if you are interested, I recommend that you take a look at Alan Beans paintings. Happy hunt!

Perhaps follow up with attempted interviews with friends and family members of Gordon whom he may have confided in? Seems pushy to me, and anything you would gleam from that would be second hand, word of mouth type stuff. But it would interesting to note thats for sure.

Originally posted by arry01
Apologies if this has already been discussed but just came across this video regarding Gordon Cooper and his sightings of UFO's.

Its great to hear from such a distinguished character such as Gordon recounting his experiences with the UFO phenomena.

Wish Cooper had made a few copies of the video and mailed one to ART BELL or
one of the UFO Research Orgs. He said he did look at the film by holding it up to
the light and did see the UFO on the film. He said he gave the film to his superior
Officer and never saw it again. (Wonder if there is a room somewhere with all
kinds of photographs,videos and motion picture films of alien saucers? Might be
out there in Area 51 or........Washington,D.C.?)
My opinion is we will not be told the truth as the GOVERNMENT knows that they
cannot do anything about the UFOs except retrieve crashed saucers and try to
back engineer them and try to learn how they fly so well..so fast, etc.

D.B. Landry
Houston,Texas

reply to post by IgnoreTheFacts


How about determining if any of the other witnesses to these events are still alive?

They might be able to confirm or deny the events took place, as described.

I have already mentioned the Apollo astronaut Alan Bean's art. Here is his painting "Mankind Rock" from 1993. Take a look at the rock the astronaut is holding in his hand, and then look at the reflection of the stone in the astronaut's visor.Why does the reflection look so different? Why is it so geometrical? Why does it look almost transparent?
I can't help thinking that Alan Bean is trying to tell us something.




In 1994 Alan Bean made a new version of the painting. Now the stone in the visor reflection looks even stranger, smaller and almost round. Why?

Forgot to post link to Alan Bean's website. Here it is, if anyone is interested:

www.alanbeangallery.com...

Originally posted by ziggystar60
Forgot to post link to Alan Bean's website. Here it is, if anyone is interested:

www.alanbeangallery.com...

I have to say that I looked at the largest images of each of the paintings you mentioned and I'm not sure what I'm supposed to see that Alan Bean is trying to convey. Can you be more specific? Not flaming or trying to give you grief. I really am curious.

Thanks.

reply to post by JeepGal


Hi, I am sorry that I didn't manage to explain myself better. I will try again: I am one of those people who are convinced that the Apollo astronauts found much more than just rocks and dust on the moon. I think Alan Bean perhaps tries to tell us this with this painting. What looks like a rock in the astronauts hand, looks far more artificial and geometrical in the reflection in the visor. I fully understand if you disagree with me, I only wanted to make people aware of this painting and think for themselves.

I have also studied many, many of the Apollo images closely, and among other things I discovered this very strange feature in image AS15-89-12135. (The posted image is a cropped version of the image, which you can find at Apollo Lunar Suface Journal, link: www.hq.nasa.gov... The feature can be found near the top of the image, zoom in and look for it yourself. The feature can also be seen clearly in image AS15-89-12136, so it is NOT just a trick of light!)




I also invite you to look at my thread "Amazing moon rock" in the Space Exploration forum, where I have posted some other images too.

All the best to you from Ziggystar60.

Sorry, the direct link to the Apollo image i posted above, doesn't seem to work for the moment. Here is the link to the Apollo Lunar Surface Journal, you can click your way to the image from there. Just click Image Library., and look for image AS15-89-12135.

www.hq.nasa.gov...

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That is mighty curious, what do you think it is?

Here's a direct link to the "hi-rez" image:

AS15-89-12135 - 1595k