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I've got a feeling that no one will listen, given the kind of baited arguments taking place here, but Ed Decker, the guy who made Godmakers, was a Mormon excommunicated for adultery. Therefore, he has a rather large axe to grind. Decker also makes no distinction between fundamentalist Mormons and mainstream Mormons, and mixes them up at will, along with out of context quotes and exaggerations, plus a few points that are just plain made up.
In the book of Micah it states that a ruler of Israel will come from Beth-lehem Ephratah.There is no indication that this ruler would be of divine origin.
As for the line from Alma 7:10,i was giving you a chance to research,how silly of me.
The Jerusalem mentioned is not a city,as is seen in the full quote,
10 And behold,he shall be born of Mary,at Jerusalem which is the land of our forefathers,she being a virgin,a precious and chosen vessel,who shall be overshadowed and conceive by the power of the Holy Ghost,and bring forth a son,yea,even the Son of God.
Originally posted by Bigwhammy
reply to post by Cuhail
I will say most Mormons I've met are very moral and well behaved people. That movie got me kind of riled up. I am not trying to bash them as human beings. However, it is my opinion that Joesph Smith was a con man. The Bible warns against anyone coming with another Gospel.
"As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!(Gal 1:9)
Are you even a Mormon? I thought you believed in Jesus Christ?
And how does the land of our forefathers help any? It doesn't. It says he was born in Jerusalem.
You have even resorted to trying to discredit all scriptures with so called lack of archaeological evidence.
"As we have already said,so now I say again:If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted,let him be eternally condemned!(Gal 1:9)
The Book of Mormon Diametrically opposes what is in the Original Scriptures moreover the authoring of the book is far less as impressive having no artifacts to substantiate their authenticity. You know what’s so Ironic is many of the mainstream Mormons I have talked to have admitted they know it is false but choose to live that way anyway.
When the holy spirit came in to me the first thing I felt it say was that Faith is all I needed which is to say Faith,, makes God easier to know, NOT HARDER to believe and I finally got it. All that time I was trying to believe the hard way, that my need to have him proven to me in conventional ways blocked the very paths by which that need could be fulfilled.
Originally posted by jakyll
No it doesn't,it opposes what the Catholic church has taught for centuries.As i mentioned earlier all that we believe can be found in the Bible,yet people won't look because they have had the Catholic point of view for so long.
Yet the Bible clearly states in several verses that though faith is essential what we do is also important.
The Bible opposes what the Catholic church teaches for that matter...
I think the onus is on you to prove the Book of Mormon has the same status as the Bible.
It begs my curiosity Mormon,, it may sound academic but I just got to ask. If you died today, and you stood at the gates of Heaven. If God asked you,,
why should I allow you in the gates of my Heaven,,
what would you say?
I would,after giving due respect,tell Him that i shouldn't be allowed in because i am still a sinner and i need more time to make amends.
That's what I thought you would say, it is also the same trap I set for catholics in a 4 move checkmate debate.
Originally posted by jakyll
If I died tomorrow I would use the answer I gave you.If i died in 10yrs time my answer would be different.Hopefully.lol.
I realize doing good is important but between the two, asking for gods son or being good. I think I have already proven, you are already doomed by your own testimony.
If you think you can do any better then that even when you DON'T even deserve it BUT DO IT FOR SOMEONE WHO DOES (YOU) then I am afraid what you just told God at the gates could be only taken
As an insult.
I also believe you are a good guy probably a hell of a lot nicer then I am lol. (Shut up Ashley and whammy lol) I think you are missing something in your spiritual life and you may not know what that is but you know you don't have it. I would suggest that you'll never be able to buy off your sins. I don't think you will get a chance to either.
Ill let the lord tell you to throw that book away. I think the lord has a call for you, and no one like a Mormon can lead other Mormons to the lord
By the way,, I want you to know I like mormons I don't think I have ever met a mormon I didn't like.
Telling God you don't think you're worthy enough to spend eternity with Him is an insult ?