Originally posted by Bigwhammy
reply to post by Cuhail
I will say most Mormons I've met are very moral and well behaved people. That movie got me kind of riled up. I am not trying to bash them as human
beings. However, it is my opinion that Joesph Smith was a con man. The Bible warns against anyone coming with another Gospel.
"As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally
condemned!(Gal 1:9)
My Brother was a deacon for the Mormon Church in Salt Lake and there are lots of them here in Mesa As. They had brought Mormon Polygamist Warren
Jeff’s here for trial recently. Their are a lot of reformations and sub sects of Mormonism. The LDS had finally given in to Government pressure
over the polygamy but some didn't want to.
The Mormons carved their own niche in the west and tried very hard to have their own way of life in Utah. They built that state and did everything on
their own living their lives on their own terms so to speak.
One of the biggest arguments I used to have with my Brother is the idea of Family going to heaven with gender intact as their earthly body’s had.
This does not make sense since their would no longer be a need for procreation. That doesn't mean however that their would not be something to
replace it and what ever that would be It is supposed to be better.
They are very into legalism and for the most part, the Moderator is correct, they live good honest and decent lives. The off shoot Church, not
withstanding, if anyone could say they lead by example, it is Mormons and probably Jehovah witnesses. Personally, and Ill add, unfortunately, they
are as lost as Atheists for the same reasons Whammy points out.
The Book of Mormon Diametrically opposes what is in the Original Scriptures moreover the authoring of the book is far less as impressive having no
artifacts to substantiate their authenticity. You know what’s so Ironic is many of the mainstream Mormons I have talked to have admitted they know
it is false but choose to live that way anyway.
They say it works for them, that they work hard their is less crime less drug use. You won't find the kind of smack talk about us from them like you
will see with Atheism.
I know you mean well whammy and as a friend I will just say this for what it's worth. Becarefull with them, they aren't your enemy, use your best
diplomacy.
These people just want to be left alone; I know they have created a mess for Christianity like Rome did but as you know that too was predicted in the
Bible. Having said that, it is WHY the original Bible out shines any other religious book for no Book as done such a bang up job keeping itself as
accurate today as it was 1000 years ago.
For a book that is like pulling teeth to read when you first start, it starts reading you and before you know it, that book owns you and you know
it.
I have read the tantra, the Iching, Siddhartha, maps of consciousness and nothing but nothing compares to the Bible. I remember the first time I
prayed for the Holy Spirit to give me help understanding it, I wanted to know what all it said so badly but none of it made sense.
That day had a profound effect on me, and Ill never forget it.
It not only confirmed prayer works especially when you ask for something the lord wants you to know, but it was the second epiphany I had ever had
where you get that weird happy cry high and you can actually feel the symbiotic spirit, flesh and blood host relationship or the lord living inside
you.
I think you know what I am talking about as most genuinely saved Christians do. It is when you say OMG and for the first time you realize everything
you look at is of God you can "Feel his Voice" it isn't the same as hearing voices in your head it is kind of weird but you know it is him.
If their were a way to articulate it I would but their isn't. One thing I DO know, for all these people who keep asking for proof of his existence,
it is out there for anyone seeking him and not the other way around.
The bible is very explicit about that and it was why Jesus didn't seek the approval of Pilot when he asked him to do some parlor tricks. Oh how
powerful an experience when you give all that hard to believe Bible a chance by faith and faith alone.
Faith isn't something to be interpreted for the Bible being so far fetched,, you need faith just to believe it.
When the holy spirit came in to me the first thing I felt it say was that Faith is all I needed which is to say Faith,, makes God easier to know, NOT
HARDER to believe and I finally got it. All that time I was trying to believe the hard way, that my need to have him proven to me in conventional
ways blocked the very paths by which that need could be fulfilled.
Once you feel him living inside you it is a love like no other.
I remember when I had joined the Navy, and my Dad got me up at 4:00 am to take me to the Train Station in downtown Chicago to Great Lakes Naval Base
Recruit Training Command. My brothers and sister all woke up to hug me good bye and I kissed my Mom good bye, she hated seeing me go.
I got in the truck and it was one of the only times I had ever seen my Dad cry. He was a tough cop and I could see the shine on his face when ever we
went under a street light. We pulled up to the train station, it was real cold. I was the only one waiting for the train that early. When I got on
he hugged me and told me to pay attention to whatever they told me and I got on the train.
As the train started pulling away I waved bye to my Dad as he stood out there. I looked again and I couldn't believe it. I could see my Dad waaay
back there almost out of sight and he was still waving goodbye.
I started crying and wanted him to go get back in his truck and go.
He waved till he was out of sight.
That was the first time I realized how much my Father loved me. When I asked our heavenly father to come into my heart and live in me, the day I
accepted his Son,, It felt just like that day I saw my Dad waving,
Only this time,, he never goes,
out of sight
- Con
[edit on 18-3-2008 by Conspiriology]
