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Mormon Scandal The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is now finding itself the subject of lawsuits for sexual abuse. Like the incidents within the Catholic Church, Mormon officials are accused of knowing about the abuse, not reporting it to the police, and trying to contain the information. NPR's Howard Berkes says dozens of lawsuits are now being prepared against the Mormon Church.
Originally posted by Cuhail
I'll tell ya what, BigWhammy. One of my best friends is Mormon and we have all sorts of long talks about religion and scripture and I can ASSURE you there is no such belief by regular LDS members that even remotely resembles that which you linked to.
Now, there are a few fundamentalist Mormon offshoots that may be a bit "over the top" when it comes to interpretation of Joseph Smith's denomination.
But, every religion has it's gung-ho offshoots. The Mormons have theirs as well. Straight-up Mormons are real, good, very hard working, prepared for anything, Christians. They study the Old and New Testaments and their own Book of Mormon.
Why don't you spend some time looking into the FACTS about Mormons instead of bringing in this stuff.
This, IMO, is sludge.
The book Gospel Principles is used by the LDS church to train new converts. The last chapter is titled "Exaltation" and explains this concept, "Exaltation is eternal life, the kind of life God lives. He lives in great glory. He is perfect. He possesses all knowledge and all wisdom. He is the father of spirit children. He is a creator. WE CAN BECOME GODS LIKE OUR HEAVENLY FATHER. THIS IS EXALTATION" (pp.289,290).
Moreover, another Mormon apostle, Orson Pratt, declared, "We have now clearly shown that GOD THE FATHER HAD A PLURALITY OF WIVES, one or more being in eternity, by whom He begat our spirits as well as the spirit of Jesus His first born, AND ANOTHER BEING UPON THE EARTH BY WHOM HE BEGAT THE TABERNACLE [PHYSICAL BODY] OF JESUS, as His only begotten in this world" (quoted in Tanners, p.227).
Originally posted by Bigwhammy
reply to post by Cuhail
I believe you that there are some very good people who are Mormons. But they are not Christians. I hate to tell you those are facts.Mormonism directly contradicts the Bible.
For instance they believe God was once a human man...Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, compiled by Joseph Fielding Smith, 1979, p.345: "God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man."
Originally posted by gotrox
Sorry, but I HAVE studied.
The offshoots are the current Mormons. Those that adhere to the original book, un-altered by political aspirations, lawsuits and "new revelations" just prior to some scandal are considered outcasts.
Yes, most Mormons are upstanding citizens (I happen to be related to a few), but they are not "true" mormons. They drink caffeinated beverages, smoke a cigar on occasion, and buy condoms. Out of sight of others in their congregation, of course. They believe that Jesus is "spirit brother" to Lucifer, that when they die they get to be god of their own planet and get to populate it, and grace by the sacrifice of Jesus isn't enough to get your eternal reward, as well as the existence of "other gods".
Yes, some things posted about them all over the place are innacurate or downright lies, but the above I posted is fact.
Ask your friend or read the book of mormon and the concurances.
post by The Cyfre
Joseph Smith declares the Mormon doctrine of God, "GOD HIMSELF WAS ONCE AS WE ARE NOW AND IS AN EXALTED MAN and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! ..."
Joseph Smith continues, "It is the first principle of the gospel to know for a certainty the character of God and to know that HE WAS ONCE A MAN LIKE US; yea, that God Himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ Himself did; and I will show it from the Bible."