.. now we have illegal programs that suck the middle man dry to give to the little lazy ignorant low end of society because they couldn't get off their couch and stop popping out offspring to get a damn job.
Forty-four million tax returns filed in 2005 will rightly demand the return of every dollar or more that is being withheld from their paychecks during 2004, according to the Tax Foundation.
in addition to the 44 million who will have no income tax liability, there are another 14 million who will earn income, but will not earn enough to pay taxes, bringing the total number of Americans not paying taxes to 58 million, and Moody stresses that this is still an underestimate.
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Originally posted by space cadet
reply to post by Rockpuck
.. now we have illegal programs that suck the middle man dry to give to the little lazy ignorant low end of society because they couldn't get off their couch and stop popping out offspring to get a damn job.
What a horrible attitude! Explain then what is the downfall of someone who does work, is educated, no children, and still can't find a job, or is forced to work a low income job? There are many college grads and students now who spend 4+ years on their education to wind up working at McDonalds due to job availability.
Originally posted by AWingAndASigh
reply to post by theQuest
And you still don't get it. Because of the very attitude you express, I've lost more than half of the capacity I previously had. My PTSD is much, much worse. That not only affects my ability to work, but it affects my everyday life. I can no longer do the things that you take for granted. I struggled before, but now it's impossible.
The attitude - the freaking "I don't give a crap as long as you WORK" can be very, very destructive for someone like me.
I'll give you an example. A couple of months ago, I decided I might be able to write and work around my disabilities. I wrote some things and sent them out for publication. My neighbor found out about it (who knows how, because I didn't tell him or anyone else) and he stomped over to my house and DEMANDED that I make a living for myself NOW - that I work far more hours than I actually could - all because he despises the idea that I'm getting SSDI and he thinks I should automagically be able to do things just because he says so. The end result of that is that I became sick and couldn't continue with the work I was trying to do. My nascent attempt was killed before it ever got off the ground.
I live in a town where that kind of attitude is rampant, where people come to my house and SCREAM at me because I'm disabled, but when I went to vocational rehab to try to get some help so I could go back to work, they said I was too sick and they couldn't do anything to help me.
If this is happening to me, it's happening to others also. You need to rethink your attitude and ask yourself whether or not there are barriers to work that you're not aware of that are preventing those people you so despise from getting a job.
You have no understanding of the kind of pain and suffering you dish out when people don't fit your percieved notions on how things should be.
Why? Because you have no clue the level of problems they face, and you don't really care. All you want to do is scream at people because they're not working when you think they should - just like my neighbors.
Very, very few people don't work because they don't want to.
Originally posted by AWingAndASigh
reply to post by theQuest
And how do you know these people don't want to work? Would you care to post links to your sources of information?
Isn't it just as possible that they lack training, that they have mental health issues, or they need training on how to work a job successfully (the imporance of punctuality and other critical work skills)?
You're making a LOT of assumptions about other people when you have no idea what their situation is. That's why I pointed out why I, myself, am not working. There are problems specific to my particular circumstances that prevent it.
WRT not letting other people stand in your way - you show your ignorance yet again. When you have PTSD, STRESS is the problem, and you can't ignore the stress created by the actions of others. That's what the disability is - if we could turn it off at will, there wouldn't be a problem!
As far as getting them off my property - believe me, I've tried. I've told them point blank to stay off my property. I've reported them to the cops. I've even bought a gun and told them so. Thus far, nothing works.
So please, post your links that show all the individuals who are not working do so because they're lazy and they don't want to. And please explain your basis for assuming that's the case.
One of the bill's provisions was a time limit. Under the law, no person could receive welfare payments for more than five years, consecutive or nonconsecutive. Another controversial change was transferring welfare to a block grant system, i.e. one in which the federal government gives states "blocks" of money, which the states then distribute under their own legislation and criteria. Some states simply kept the federal rules, but others used the money for non-welfare programs, such as subsidized childcare (to allow parents to work) or subsidized public transportation (to allow people to travel to work without owning cars).[Haskins 2006; Blank 2002].
The consequences of welfare reform have been dramatic. As expected, welfare rolls (the number of people receiving payments) dropped significantly (57%) in the years since passage of the bill. Substantially larger declines in welfare rolls were posted by many states, and even big city-dominated Illinois achieved an 86% reduction in welfare recipients. [MacDougal 2005] Child poverty rates for African American families have dropped the sharpest since statistics began to be tallied in the 1960s; although critics argue that this is due more to overall economic improvement than to welfare reform, and that in any case the rate of child poverty in the United States is still far higher than in nations with greater welfare protections. Some would counter that this apparent disparity is due to misleading statistical analysis (measuring inequality rather than poverty) and that welfare rolls in the United States historically are much more closely correlated with government spending rather than economic fluctuations. The original bill was set to expire in September of 2002; Congress passed numerous reauthorizations as debate continued over Republican attempts to increase the amount of hours that recipients should be required to work. The 1996 welfare reform law was reauthorized in the Deficit Reduction Act of 2005. The reauthorization required the Secretary of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), by June 30, 2006, to promulgate regulations designed to address eligible work activities and uniform reporting and accountability measures. The reauthorization maintains the original law’s requirement that 50 percent of states’ welfare caseloads fulfill statutory work requirements. To fulfill work requirements, TANF recipients must be participating for 20 hours per week (or 30 hours in cases where the youngest child is 6 years old or older) in one or more of the 12 work activities named in the statute.
Most respondents reported significant barriers to employment. Almost half (45%) were diagnosed as clinically depressed and 16% screened positively for post-traumatic stress syndrome. Over one-quarter indicated drug use problems and slightly more indicated alcohol problems. 35% had no high school diploma or GED and 31% had not worked in one job for six months during the past five years.
Time-limit families and families who left for other reasons face greater barriers than families who left for increased income-higher rates of depression (60% v. 40%), twice as many who lack a high school diploma or GED, more than twice as many who have not worked at one job for six months or more in the last five years.
72% of respondents reported having been emotionally abused since the age of 18.
Working toward EmploymentHow the Program Works
The Working toward Employment (WTE) program helps single adults and married couples who have no dependent children living with them.
To apply, you must be at least 18 years old or no longer being supported by your parents. This program has very strict work standards to make sure that households become able to support themselves as soon as possible.
WTE customers are paid after they finish all the performance requirements.
Time Limit
A household may not receive WTE Cash Assistance for more than seven months in any eighteen (18) month period.
Over your lifetime, you may not receive WTE Cash Assistance for more than 24 months altogether.
Payment for part of a month counts as payment for a whole month.
