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Originally posted by ShiftTrio
Well I didn't get this just from south Park, and I do know there are several versions of the story,.. But perhaps there are some facts left out But From the Mormon site, I compared ir, there may be other pieces that make these make more sense, that may be the case, Because I would like to know. Because from what I see right now it was a mass brain washing.
PS Every Mormon I have met IS very very nice, a little odd, but very very nice and have good families, and do things we surly don't do we wish we could or chose to do. And no offense is meant, but the names and places in that story are true Correct?
Originally posted by ShiftTrio
Joe Smith Said he was out in the woods praying to God to ask what religion he should be, and God and Jesus told him to start his own religion because none of them were right. So one night he was visited Or had a vision depending on who tells it from an Angel named Moroni.
He told Joe, he was a Native American and that all the Native Americans were white, and took a boat from Jerusalem. But they where all killed by the other tribes of Israel and they are the native Americans today because God turned there Skin Red.
So he told him to look for some Gold Plates which have a new Gospel that says Jesus came to America.
He told Joe where to find it and Joe said he found it with 2 Stones the Urim and Thummim that could translate the plates, When asked where they were, he said God said he could not show them to anyone. LOL
So, he goes to a rich guy named Martin Harris, he said he needed money to publish his book the book of Mormon, So in order to translate the book and have no one see it, While Martin Harris Wrote, Joe, Put the Plates with the stones in a Hat and stuck his head in it to read it and started his translation because the stones turned the words into English. LOL OMG..
So Martin Harris goes home and tell his Wife, His wife says how do you know he is not making it up, She tell her husband to go back and say he lost the transcriptions and if its true he should be able to translate it exactly again.
When he told Joe Smith this, Joe left and said he had to pray, He came back and Said God was mad and that he was no longer able to translate from the one book , but could translate from another, so the story will be about the same but different. LOL..
And the Mormons KNOW THIS LOL.. My lord...
There a bit more but that's the basic story.. Oh Joe said the first Man and Woman came from Jackson Missouri LOL
Originally posted by dreamrebel
I hear ya dude. These are questions I would love to ask my neighbor but dont want to offend him.
Originally posted by JustAnIllusion
OMG, I live in Idaho, and there are Mormons everywhere! I think that their religion is similiar to a cult (no offense). I dunno, they just seem to brainwash thier people, and there are so many restrictions on what you can and cannot do. No caffiene, no spaghetti straps, no R-rated movies, etc....
I think it would suck. I really dont like being restricted to anything.
Originally posted by MaskedAvatar
Get my award hands down for:
* best nativity displays on front lawns of major temples prior to Christmas
* most straight-faced missionaries.
Two sharp dressed men (brown suits, bicycles obviously) wheel up to my front door.
MA: "Hmmm. Brown suits, bikes. You must be morons!"
Missionary #1: "Good afternoon sir. You mean Mormons... yes, we (cut short)"
MA: "You would have to be thirsty on a hot day! Can I get you a beer?"
Missionaries 1 & 2 look almost (almost) tempted, but decline.
MA: "How many wives are you allowed to have?"
Missionary 1: "One."
MA: "I'm a little busy, can I buy some literature from you?" (throwing my friends a Jehova's Witness/Seventh Day Adventist flick pass).
Missionary 1: "Er, we don't have any to sell with us, but this leaflet will encourage you to (cut short)"
MA: "Thank you. May your god go with you as you find yourselves in peak hour traffic."
*exeunt*
I felt that if Missionary #2 developed some punchy dialogue bouncing off missionary #1's straight guy, rather than adopting the 'mute' character, they could get some interesting stand-up stuff going.
[Edited on 18-2-2004 by MaskedAvatar]
Originally posted by Mayhem
[Well like I have said, JustAnIllusion, to say mormons are forbidden from it isnt entirely correct. A lot of people assume things about the religon because they dont understand them. The religon itself is not that strict. It all depends on the individual. All churchs come out and say how they would like their members to act. For example, a majority of religons want people to wait for marriage before having sex, but its not forbidden. People are free to choose.
Originally posted by specialasianX
I remember there were these two mormon missionaries that used to come over and visit my friends place quite alot.. we would sit there and drink and smoke pot and get into theological debates... one dude who was from the States and had grown up a mormon got offended by us questioning anything (understadable) and was actively trying to get us to read the book of mormon (which some of us did) but he then refused to read any religious or spiritual literalture we gave him... the other dude was a new convert from tonga and i could see he was dying for a hit from a bong and a beer but he held back but he was cool we chatted with him like a mate not some smartly dressed preacher...
That goes to show the strictness of the religion comes down to the indivivual and how closely they wish to follow their fath (the same as catholics and muslims and jews) there are set rules you MUST follow and guideline which are reccomended but not mandatory...
but hey do put forward some good ideas like all religions do... and their missionaries are much cooler than the Jehovas witnesses
Originally posted by JustAnIllusion
Originally posted by Mayhem
[Well like I have said, JustAnIllusion, to say mormons are forbidden from it isnt entirely correct. A lot of people assume things about the religon because they dont understand them. The religon itself is not that strict. It all depends on the individual. All churchs come out and say how they would like their members to act. For example, a majority of religons want people to wait for marriage before having sex, but its not forbidden. People are free to choose.
I have a friend who got excommunicated from the Mormon church for smoking pot. I think thats kind of strict, being how the Mormon religion teaches forgiveness, but doesnt enforce it. (At least, in my friends case.)
Originally posted by Garon
any comment on the ALLEGED sexual abuse and satanism in the mormon church that has been reported on this board a few months ago?
Originally posted by Mayhem
Originally posted by specialasianX
I remember there were these two mormon missionaries that used to come over and visit my friends place quite alot.. we would sit there and drink and smoke pot and get into theological debates... one dude who was from the States and had grown up a mormon got offended by us questioning anything (understadable) and was actively trying to get us to read the book of mormon (which some of us did) but he then refused to read any religious or spiritual literalture we gave him... the other dude was a new convert from tonga and i could see he was dying for a hit from a bong and a beer but he held back but he was cool we chatted with him like a mate not some smartly dressed preacher...
That goes to show the strictness of the religion comes down to the indivivual and how closely they wish to follow their fath (the same as catholics and muslims and jews) there are set rules you MUST follow and guideline which are reccomended but not mandatory...
but hey do put forward some good ideas like all religions do... and their missionaries are much cooler than the Jehovas witnesses
I didnt serve a mission, but my younger brother did. They missionaries are in fact young kids usually in the age of 19 - 21.