Originally posted by devolved
just curious... i know oprah is an eastern star. seems only fitting to have her support obama. obama i think is abusing his power to influence the weak at heart and mind... a complete vulgar display of power

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Is he really. I didn't know that, sheees

Could you provide links to both the claim the Obama is a Mason and Oprah is an Eastern Star?

Links will help me better understand what you are trying to ask/say.

Originally posted by devolved
just curious... i know oprah is an eastern star.

How do you "know" that? This is the first time I've ever heard it..and I've been a Mason and a member of the Eastern Star about as long as Oprah has been, well, a star. Have you seen her membership certificate in the O.E.S. ? Or perhaps has the Grand Chapter of her home state published her membership?

I'd be curious to know, just because I've never seen this stated before.

Thanks, in advance.

seems only fitting to have her support obama.

You mean because they're both celebrities? If not, then why does it seem "only fitting" ?

obama i think is abusing his power to influence the weak at heart and mind

So what's new about this? Fundamentalists prey upon the weak-minded all the time.

Appreciate your further explanation.


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i don't have any links or proof that oprah is an eastern star.... only word by mouth from my lodge brothers. that's why i'm here... to listen

Originally posted by devolved
i don't have any links or proof that oprah is an eastern star.... only word by mouth from my lodge brothers. that's why i'm here... to listen

So you don't really "know" you just "heard" Well, OK. People say a lot of things, but as I said, I've never heard this and I've been around (as a Mason) for a long time. (Been alive a lot longer than that, but we won't get into that)

But Obama is not a Mason (and I don't think Winfrey is an Eastern Star...but anyway) so why do you think it "seems fitting" that she support him?

What "power" do you think he's abusing?

By your "lodge brothers" do you mean to infer that you are a Mason?

Or are you just yanking our proverbial chain?

Oh, congratulations on joining ATS, by the way. I see you registered just today. Have fun here. It's a great site.

power? by far Psychic Seduction. i wish i had time to explain but i don't.

yes, i am a mason

Originally posted by devolved
power? by far Psychic Seduction. i wish i had time to explain but i don't.
yes, i am a mason

Oh. OK.

Thanks.

Originally posted by Rockpuck


Also, I believe she supports him because shes black, hes black, and black people should only vote for black candidates. At least, thats what I get from their relationship.

What about the fact that they live in the same town, and have been friends for many years?

I have never heard of this. But I hope you enjoy the cult that you are in with. Mason's aren't the real power, it's the Illuminati.

You....You...Mean Obama Is a Mason and that means the Masons are trying to Control the Government, Oh Crap Change my vote!!

I don't care if He is a Muslim, Mason, Christian, Satanist, or Atheist Will he do the Job right and Keep all that Crap out, Then Who CARES!!!

As Far as I am Concerned Prince Hall Lodge is Racism and that why it was created, but Equality rules now, so when you read History REAL HISTORY you'll understand when I say that Prince Hall Lodge is a Sour Tradition

I say that Prince Hall Lodge is a Sour Tradition

In your own narrow minded opinion.

Masons don't have a problem with it?