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Is Your ISP Actually the CIA?

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posted on Feb, 14 2004 @ 07:57 PM
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Is Your ISP Actually the CIA?
"A few weeks ago while speaking with a friend, I was alerted to a very interesting article he had found article here about an Internet crack site (Cracks.am) was actually powered by the CIA."

[Edited on 14-2-2004 by kinglizard]




posted on Feb, 14 2004 @ 09:22 PM
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Wouldn't supprise me, but a big job for little return.

In America some guy was arrested for trying to sell secrets to Al Quaeda.

How did the CIA catch him? He send an email to an AQ website offering his services. How did the CIA get the info unless they operated the website or intercepted it from there. I wondered if the website itself was a "sting" type plan made by the CIA just to catch people like him....

Makes you wonder who is behind some of those types of sites.....



posted on Feb, 14 2004 @ 09:23 PM
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But did the person send an email from a military computer?



posted on Feb, 14 2004 @ 09:27 PM
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I heard somewhere that the government has acres of underground supercomputers recording every type of electronic communication. Then it can search for keywords or anything else they may want. I will try to find a reference to it online.



posted on Feb, 14 2004 @ 09:35 PM
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Its called Echelon, if u go to;


www.abovetopsecret.com...

and yes they are watchin u...aaaahhhh



posted on Feb, 14 2004 @ 09:52 PM
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You know now that allot of people use cable modems that are always online it makes me wonder if they can tap into these computers without us knowing. Maybe Bill Gates has some sort of back door.



posted on Feb, 14 2004 @ 09:58 PM
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Yeah, especially with the Microsoft Security problems recently... firstly it makes u wonder how long they have known about the problem themselves. secondly, Have the CIA or any such organisation been using this breach in anyway, and thirdly, how many more errors are there that can be and maybe have been exploited.



posted on Feb, 14 2004 @ 10:01 PM
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Originally posted by ShinobiAurora
Yeah, especially with the Microsoft Security problems recently... firstly it makes u wonder how long they have known about the problem themselves. secondly, Have the CIA or any such organisation been using this breach in anyway, and thirdly, how many more errors are there that can be and maybe have been exploited.


Good point.

You know Microsoft sends out security releases all the time, it's possible these patches actually give access or a way in to our computers.



posted on Feb, 14 2004 @ 10:03 PM
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Wouldnt suprise me a bit.


May even have something to do with this,..
ISP's accelorate censorship on the web !!
(although I think the post was a bit mis-understood there.)



posted on Feb, 14 2004 @ 10:17 PM
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Other software companies update their programs like firewalls and microsoft needs to put out a "security release" (wink, wink) to work around legitimate firewall updates.

[Edited on 14-2-2004 by kinglizard]



posted on Feb, 14 2004 @ 11:04 PM
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I think this is my cue to pop in with the obligatory don't use Microsoft products comment. so...don't.


as for ISPs, I wouldn't be surprised if Comcast was one of Satan's minions at this point. twice as fast. yeah, right.



posted on Feb, 14 2004 @ 11:10 PM
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Originally posted by MorningtonCrescent
I think this is my cue to pop in with the obligatory don't use Microsoft products comment. so...don't.


as for ISPs, I wouldn't be surprised if Comcast was one of Satan's minions at this point. twice as fast. yeah, right.


I just wish we had a choice.


jra

posted on Feb, 14 2004 @ 11:13 PM
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If you're worried about your computer being vulnerable. Get a firewall. They work well. Sygate is a good one. smb.sygate.com...

I wouldn't be able to say for sure that MS would purposely put in backdoors in its OS's or not, but now that all the code for win2k and NT is out in the open i'm sure people will find out for sure.



posted on Feb, 15 2004 @ 03:12 AM
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Originally posted by kinglizard
You know now that allot of people use cable modems that are always online it makes me wonder if they can tap into these computers without us knowing. Maybe Bill Gates has some sort of back door.

I know for a fact that several holes are built into Windows and IE.

I know someone whos job it is to help crack child porn rings. While his job is morally right he is fact doing illegal snooping on people. He is employed by an international computer company and a national telecoms company.
They knew of a whole ring and had everyones name, address and what was on ther computer. They couldnt make any arrests because they got the info illegally. They had to wait until one computer was taken to be repaired, as soon as that happened they had the cover story to say where they got the info from.

The NSA, CIA and other government agencies can get into any Windows computer by in built backdoors. It wouldnt surprise me if all the fixes for windows that MS issues contain another exploit to open a whole.

They are going in a never ending circle of having to fix holes discovered by people and then opening up other holes for agencies to use.



posted on Feb, 15 2004 @ 04:11 AM
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Originally posted by kinglizard

I just wish we had a choice.

You do have a choice, a beautiful choice.
Get a Mac.

Apple



posted on Feb, 15 2004 @ 05:56 AM
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Originally posted by kinglizard

"A few weeks ago while speaking with a friend, I was alerted to a very interesting article he had found article here about an Internet crack site (Cracks.am) was actually powered by the CIA."



THIS site www.cracks.am... ?

Do you know what with astalavista ?


jhh

posted on Feb, 15 2004 @ 06:42 AM
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When I bought my DSL modem/router from my isp they left two of the remote access ports opened, and gave the modem a username and password. When I called them to get the password they used, they tried to claim I didn't need to know it. So of course I hit the factory default button, close the ports, prevented the router from logging, and now whatever they were going to do with it, can no longer happen.

Also last October while living on campus, the tech department shutdown the wireless connection for two months. At first it started out as please bring your pc in to get checked for viruses, then they sent around a news letter where he was defending himself saying he was not interested in searching computers for anything other than security holes, and finally once he setup the network once again, he somehow used the dhcp server to hijack and route our computers to some login screen that was suppose to scan our computers for "viruses" and he also had a disclaimer about allowing law enforcement to access. here is the site 134.129.111.216... BTW if you want a free virus scan, you might be able to find it here, just follow the links. This is the main reason I got my own apartment, since any alternative only allowed me to connect at 32k.



posted on Feb, 15 2004 @ 06:45 AM
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Originally posted by Tetsuo-51
But did the person send an email from a military computer?

I thought, that some person that was monitoring the web site chat room reported him.



[Edited on 15-2-2004 by NetStorm]



posted on Feb, 15 2004 @ 07:29 AM
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Cracks.am - probably. The hosting itself is done on some island in Great Britain which has some special laws favouring the criminals.

Anyway, the files and images themself on that site are hosted on servers in the USA, I think it was Atlanta. Once traced all files and images back to their destination. Nobody can tell me that it would be normally legit to host that stuff on a US webserver.
Makes you think at least.

On the other side, for what reason?


Btw. skip that echelon bullshiat. Everybody with just a little bit of computer and networking knowledge knows that Echelon is just unrealistic and plain stu-pido.



posted on Feb, 15 2004 @ 07:36 AM
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Originally posted by shoo
Btw. skip that echelon bullshiat. Everybody with just a little bit of computer and networking knowledge knows that Echelon is just unrealistic and plain stu-pido.


Why would you say bs? Intercept Data Packets at every key router? Can be done IF you have the manpower, and means to get there. The Internet here started as a goverment project, why not build the safeguards in early?




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