Originally posted by West Coast
What a load of twaddle! Every conflict has its differences...The indians arnt facing the same kinda of # the americans have and are facing. And many
US troops have had to stay longer, if you would have done your research you would have known that.
Oh boy! What a superb piece of garbage you’ve spewed!!

It seems you know nuts about the armed forces of the world. Home work? Man! I've served
in the army, Special Forces, for the last 32 years and you are trying to tell me that I haven't researched? Lol! I’ve trained not only US officers
in India at the War College but also officers from 18 other countries. So I think I know what the heck I'm talking about!
Now to put things in proper perspective, the Indian army has 50 years of experience of Counter Insurgency operations and Low Intensity Conflicts
(LICO) in the Jungles of the North East as well as the Kashmir Valley. US troops including officers are regularly trained by the Indian Amy at their
Training establishments in Counter terrorist and counter insurgency operations, apart from ops in varied terrain including high altitudes. Indian
troops man posts 22,000 feet high in extremely inhospitable terrain and have been there for 25 years.
Talk of experience. Has any other Army got this? And about Iraq, some have mentioned that US forces took it in three days!! But they’re still at it,
suffering mounting casualties because of poor strategic planning and that means a lack of higher direction of war. Counter terrorist ops is a
different ball game altogether where force multipliers are of little consequence and high tech gizmos can do little. These type of ops are a great
force leveler.
Yes, considering the force multipliers that the US army has, I agree that they’re the best in a conventional scenario. But the question here is man
for man. And that is the crux. Without those hi tech toys, it would be tough going for the US Army.
And let’s get one thing straight. The days of conventional warfare are almost over. It is either a nuclear scenario that one has to contend with,
the probability of which is next to zilch, or counter insurgency/guerilla warfare. Those high tech gizmos are of little use. The days of rolling
juggernauts across the plains of Eastern Europe with massive force consisting of armored and mechanized formations and combat groups with close air
support are gone. What you may just have as an adversary in a conventional scenario is one of the poor third world countries like Iraq which had and
has a rag tag circus and not a professional army saddled with antique equipment and lack of training. So taking Iraq in a week was no big deal!
Unfortunately, US doctrines haven’t changed much since the end of the Cold War. It’s high time they concentrate more on unconventional warfare
instead, which is the war of today. Thankfully they’ve made a start and are now being trained by Indian forces. And needless to say, the Indians are
learning the use and deployment of high tech weaponry from the Americans too, for mutual benifit!
Forty Indian soldiers in jungle camouflage descend on a mock village in the central O'ahu mountains, hunting for insurgents. American officers
watch for lessons they can apply when leading their own soldiers through the same course on a U.S. Army training ground.
The troops are on the island for the biggest joint drills the Indian and U.S. armies have had to date, the latest sign of growing military relations
between the two nuclear powers. Analysts say the United States is eager to deepen military ties with India to learn some of the counterinsurgency
methods India's military has cultivated during its long battle against separatists in Kashmir.
There's also a U.S. desire to use India to balance China's growing power and influence, said Itty Abraham, research fellow with the Washington,
D.C., office of Hawai'i's East-West Center.
"From the government's point of view, India has become, though people in Washington won't admit it so openly — it's not a nice thing to say —
America's counterweight to China," said Abraham.

An Indian officer with Alpha Co., 21st Battalion, The Punjab Regiment, helps Marines with Echo Co., Battalion Landing Team 2/4 familiarize
themselves with the various ranges and courses they'll be participating in.
Official USMC Photo by Cpl Thomas J. Grove
It’s time for a break!!
Camaraderie between the Indian and American Forces.
Courtesy: Corbs
And training the British Forces too…..
Himalayan Warrior, a joint UK-India exercise comprising specialist high altitude training, will be held in the Ladakh region 17 September-11
October including a period of acclimatization. This is a unique opportunity to share best practice between elite soldiers of both British and Indian
Armed Forces.
This specialist environmental training is the culmination of three years interaction between the Royal Marine (RM) mountain leaders and the Indian
Army High Altitude Warfare School. Emphasis will be given to survival and infantry skills in order to improve their ability to operate above 5000
metres. The RM welcomed the opportunity to train alongside the Indian Army in one of the most challenging environments in the world that will test
their specialist high altitude and mountain leadership skills.
The Indian airborne forces who are taking part in this Exercise ‘HIMALAYAN WARRIOR’, are especially trained high altitude warfare troops capable
of operating independently in varied snow-bound mountainous regions. They are well equipped and experienced for conduct of all types of operations in
all environments.
More later! But remember, we’re all in it together against a common enemy – Terrorism!!
Cheers!
Refs:
the.honoluluadvertiser.com...
www.india-defence.com...
[edit on 28-1-2008 by mikesingh]