Asteroid 2007 TU24 has NASA concerned.

I think it may be more than a coincidence that NASA supposedly sent some killer or explosive type satelite into orbit to Saturn or wherever.
Who was it that landed a satelite on an asteroid not too long ago?

And even if they did do this, it doesn't mean they'll actually blow the thing up, but more likely to steer it off course and possibly into another planet.

Keeping track of the big wigs might also indicate that they are going into hiding. But it wouldn't be hard to make most people believe they are doing business as usual with false information to the media.

I can't say for sure if I'll be disappointed nothing happens though. Should I buy some more peanut butter, crackers and bottled water anyway?

NO ON SHOULD LIVE IN FEAR. Whatever will be is not to be feared. We all wonder about our survival, about the safety of those we love. But fear has no place in this. Fear is another of those things that work to silence the human spirit.

We can try to prepare. We should always be prepared for things to change. Life is never always the same. But fear of the unknown is a wasted effort. We must face the unknown with the assurance that we are a species that has overcome many obstacles. Whatever the future brings, we will overcome it.

Just as our eyes are adapted to looking into the distance, to see danger before it reaches us, we look for what might happen in our future. But we are a people that will abide. Dangers come and go, and sometimes they inflict a heavy toll on us, but we go on. It is our destiny.

I refuse to fear.

[edit on 22-1-2008 by NGC2736]

Here's how to know how far away the asteroid will be at any given time:

Go to the nasa jpl site here ssd.jpl.nasa.gov...

Generate the ephimeris (you can return hourly readings) and note the delta value on any given date. This is the value that tells the distance between the earth and the neo in astronomical units (AU). 1 AU = 92,956,000 miles.

At the time of this posting the closest delta is .003705691670239 at 09:00. This translates to 344,466 miles away from the center of the earth.

The MOID many are mentioning refers to the potential distance between two orbiting objects, as described here: www.lowell.edu...

You can make your own conclusions as to what effect this may have, I just wanted to point out a way to calculate real distance.


[edit on 22-1-2008 by sevenkev]

Originally posted by d. duck
Everybody better make sure to take their towels with them on Jan. 28 & 29!

As I've been pondering this and reading from other sites, a question made it's way through the fog. Maybe someone with a better understanding of geological mechanics than I have could answer this for me.

Let's say that the asteroid does strike, and it hits Australia. Would people in the Northern Hemisphere, or, for that matter, in Asia, hear or feel anything?

I'm in Australia, I'll let you all know

But seriously, I've read all the new posts, no one knows anything for sure, still! Is its path changing? I don't think Earth's gravity will affect it, it'd traveling too fast to get caught up in our gravity. I think...

Ok well I have a lot of fear going on right now, actually I am quite scared.
I do not react this way to these types of events but all these damn puzzle pieces seem to fit. WTH is going on? Why is nothing being reported about this? I have 3 very small children dammit and somone needs to tell me what the %#$^ is going on!!!
This rant was not directed at anyone here, I am just growing increasingly scared and frustrated and we dont seem to be getting any concrete information and like I said I am worried for my children.

reply to post by MagicaRose


okay well, i would be scared. I wouldn't panick but that's just me, i understand that. I still can't see why we hide it. When terror threats are made, people don't panick. This is the same thing in my opinion.

Same here im not usually the type to fall for this type of thing however no one it seems has any idea.

I too have 3 kids only on the 28th im due to fly to Ireland on business for 3 days. Im thinking do i take this as hype with a pinch of salt or do i tell work im not going as i believe an asteroid is going to hit us and make a complete ass of myself.

I have all my old military gear ready for surviving to cover me and my family. Always have and always will but is this the time to use it??????

Here's my grand prediction - the 30th will roll around, and everyone will say "Oh, that was so silly! It actually hit the Pacific Ocean instead..."

I'm totally 50/50 on this thing, just like everyone else, where are the bonafide conspiracy busters??

reply to post by thesaint


Saint, relax. This thing is going to miss Earth.
If it was going to hit we would know by now; too many people watching nowadays.

One day though, who knows?

One thing I am becoming increasingly convinced of though:
Something BIG is about to happen.
What? When? How? Just don't know but too many "things" and conicedences are occuring and too many people have this "ominous" feeling.

Thanks for your replies.
I won't panic but I'm going to have my daughter and grandchildren with us on those 2 days.
I don't want to worry my daughter so I haven't told her about this yet.
I'm still trying to figure out how she can keep her children at home from school without telling them what is going on.
I'm going out to buy more water and some extra food .
I think the one poster had a great idea.
I'll make a delicious meal for all of us and try to spend the days enjoying each other's company.

reply to post by thesaint


see and this is what scares me the most. Members here who I have great respect for, such as yourself, that I tend to follow around the board are not giving me the lovey dovey feeling about this thing. Even my most respected analytical thinking friends such as NGC and ANARP are not saying "Nothings gonna happen, everythings fine" they alude to it but arent coming out and saying it.
So say this thing does hit, can we at least get a general area so we can begin to get the word out or try to save our own hides? I have family on the gulf coast of Fla. and Maryland, I live in North Ga with family also in Southern Ga. If we need to get out PLEASE for the love of pete tell us now.

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet or not. If so, my apologies for reiterating someone else's idea. Now I guess we know what the big containers down in Georgia are for.

Please do forgive me if this has already been addressed and answered, but could someone kindly tell me why, in the following set of NASA TU24 calculations, has a data entry for January 29th 2008 been either deleted or not entered at all?

2007 TU24 Planning

2008 Jan 20-21 21:10-03:13 5 -20 0.044 204 91 7
2008 Jan 21-22 21:04-03:13 6 -19 0.039 231 150 11
2008 Jan 22-23 20:57-03:15 6 -18 0.034 265 270 18
2008 Jan 23-24 20:50-03:19 7 -17 0.029 311 530 33 X-band monostatic
2008 Jan 24-25 20:41-03:25 7 -16 0.023 376 1200 68
2008 Jan 25-26 20:30-03:37 8 -13 0.018 473 3300 170
2008 Jan 26-27 20:15-03:59 9 -8 0.013 634 13000 560
2008 Jan 27-28 19:52-04:53 13 2 0.008 700 79000 3200
2008 Jan 28 19:12-14:49 26 39 0.004 700 852000 35000
2008 Jan 30 01:47-17:14 167 54 0.007 700 133000 5500
2008 Jan 31 04:32-17:04 177 41 0.012 700 20000 820
2008 Feb 01 05:01-16:56 179 35 0.017 700 5600 230
2008 Feb 02 05:12-16:50 181 32 0.022 676 2100 89
2008 Feb 03 05:16-16:44 181 31 0.027 570 930 42
2008 Feb 04 05:18-16:39 182 29 0.033 493 470 23
2008 Feb 05 05:18-16:34 182 29 0.038 435 260 14
2008 Feb 06 05:16-16:29 182 28 0.043 389 160 9
2008 Feb 07 05:14-16:25 182 27 0.048 351 98 6

reply to post by thesaint

thesaint, i feel for you! You cant make a complete ass out of yourself, and risk your reputation, but if you want to stay within the truth, i'd tell them at work that either a) you've had a bad premonition about the flight, or b) you're an amateur astronomer and you do see something that could potentially hit, or c) if all else fails, start playing sick in a couple of days and then postpone the trip.
Sometimes you have to tell little white lies, especially when you have kids.

I'd go with #3. Play sick.

Good luck

I think its time to bring the "group hug thread back"

reply to post by SEEWHATUDO


Please, even if this were a strike by the object, there's no reason to panic. It could hit just about anywhere. And this isn't a planet buster, or an extinction level event. If it hit, there could be some water damage to coastal areas, but no worse than any major undersea event, or if on land no worse than the bombing of Nagasaki. Both of which are very survivable.

And where could you run? Which way? How far? There is no data to show that one place is "safer" than any other. You might actually run in a blind panic into the very area of destruction.

Overall, I doubt that there will be a real event here, it is only a possibility. We are always under the possibility of something, both good and bad. It is the price we pay for being alive, and knowing it.

Concern is good, for it makes us try harder in the future to see danger coming and to have a plan to meet it. Panic is not good, for it leads us to act in ways that are not worthy of us as a fearless species ready to meet all the unknowns of the universe.

Peace, my friend. To fear without recourse is futile, while courage serves in all seasons.

reply to post by SEEWHATUDO


OK, I can understand how after all that we've heard about an asteroid hitting earth that this seems very scary. At the same time, all of the orbital calculations are made with gravity of solar system objects taken into account. Relatively speaking, this would be a near flyby, but in absolute terms, if the Nasa calculations are correct, we won't notice this at all. There are so many amateur astronomers who will be/are validating things like this constantly that the most likely reason this is not being talked about is that there are other things the media wants to cover. Scary, near miss asteroids are so '90s.

Do not be afraid. The earth is a little more than 8,000 miles across. By all calculations, this object will likely be more than 40 earth widths away. We won't see it at all, which is probably why it's not being talked about. It's gravity compared to the earth is so insignificant that it won't be measurable with any tidal instrument we've got. By all accounts, it will be a non-event.

Please, everyone. I have children too. What I really fear is them not having the chance to experience all the love they can. If I really knew that a population killing asteroid would destroy the earth, I'd remember the movie "Life is Beautiful" and try to give my children the best, most fun and loving last days of their lives. Since that's not happening, maybe we should simply use this opportunity to think about that, make some effort to be thankful for the time we do have together, and add just a little more love to their lives in some small way rather than let ourselves spend one minute in fear.

reply to post by Brad.T
Very interesting! I beleive its deleted.

I'm beginning to wonder if this isnt all a part of a BIGGER CONSPIRACY BY THE POWERS THAT BE???

Maybe there is NO asteroid.


Remember Drk4Knight and his hiding on account of visions. He's in hiding now, btw.

"They" are deliberatly making US panic!!!!!
Let me know what you all think about this one.



[edit on 22-1-2008 by dgtempe]

reply to post by Brad.T


That is very suspicious, great catch Brad.

There would be no reason to delete one day unless there's some extraordinary data.

I would highly doubt that one day would be skipped when compiling the data.

Remember January 29th is supposedly the day TU24 passes outside the Moon.

Get ready for some pretty fireworks!

reply to post by Brad.T


HI Brad.T,

This is what I found on that site to possibly explain why the Jan. 29th calculation is not there....

2007 TU24
General assumptions: D = 0.30 km, P = 4.0 h, OC albedo = 0.10, subradar lat = 0.0 deg

ARECIBO: G = 10.00 K/Jy, Tsys = 25.0 K, P = 900 kW, elev >= 70.3 deg, unhopped

Monostatic
UTC Dist. # SNR/ SNR/
start date window RA Dec (AU) runs day run
----------------------------------------------------------------------
2008 Jan 27 20:25-21:21 12 0 0.009 95 411000 44000
2008 Jan 28 20:07-22:31 22 30 0.004 315 11x10^6 649000
...too far north for Arecibo to track on Jan. 29-31......
2008 Feb 01 07:00-08:22 179 36 0.016 98 51000 5600
2008 Feb 02 06:43-08:42 180 33 0.021 118 25000 2600
2008 Feb 03 06:34-08:48 181 31 0.027 113 12000 1200
2008 Feb 04 06:28-08:50 182 30 0.032 104 6100 640
2008 Feb 05 06:23-08:49 182 29 0.037 95 3400 370
2008 Feb 06 06:19-08:48 182 28 0.042 87 2100 230
2008 Feb 07 06:14-08:45 182 28 0.048 80 1300 150
2008 Feb 08 06:10-08:43 182 27 0.053 74 880 110
2008 Feb 09 06:05-08:39 182 27 0.058 69 600 77
2008 Feb 10 06:01-08:36 182 26 0.064 64 430 56
2008 Feb 11 05:56-08:32 182 26 0.069 60 310 42
2008 Feb 12 05:52-08:29 182 26 0.074 56 230 33
2008 Feb 13 05:47-08:25 182 26 0.080 53 180 26

GOLDSTONE: G = 0.94 K/Jy, Tsys = 18.0 K, P = 440 kW, elev >= 20.0 deg, unhopped
(DSS-14 is unavailable for the best dates.)

Notice that is says "...too far north for Arecibo to track on Jan. 29-31..."

What the heck does that mean? I am going to be honest, I am worried now...This thing is going to get too close for comfort...

[edit on 22-1-2008 by wrangell76]

[edit on 22-1-2008 by wrangell76]

Could this all be a plot to scare us into submission?

How can they blatantly leave out a date??? They DO think we're stupid, but this is ridiculous!!!

I think they want the world to panic during this time frame. What better way to do it than this?