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Originally posted by AmmonSeth
Im not saying my belief is that Atlantis is hiding in a mountain somewhere,
i am simply mentioning the fact that the sea/ocean is not the only place to point your attention,
Originally posted by woodwytch
Why did I reference the locations with the four elements ?
Because they are the building blocks of our planet ... just seems to make sense that this would be the most natural form of symbolism to use ... they would assume that these things would remain recognizable by anyone ... however far into their future !!! (like the cardinal points).
Woody.
Originally posted by woodwytch
reply to post by snoopyuk
Hey there snoopyuk,
I read your thread about the Azores ... found it extremely interesting.
Originally posted by snoopyuk
reply to post by AmmonSeth
i too would like to more of the elemental side ??
i just realised ammonseth , you have been in all my threads,and i have been in yours !! i have added you as a friend
snoopyuk
Originally posted by Nohup
Yeah, maybe. But the thing is, Plato (the only historical source) seemed not to be speaking very metaphorically when he talked about the place, so why not simply take him at his word?
Originally posted by AmmonSeth
Originally posted by Harte
Originally posted by AmmonSeth
I do however wish to work with other intelligent minds and do wish to hear other 'alternative' theories about the atlantis mythos
These two wishes would seem to be mutually exclusive.
Harte
How do you propose that you may be of assistance?
Originally posted by merka
Originally posted by Nohup
Yeah, maybe. But the thing is, Plato (the only historical source) seemed not to be speaking very metaphorically when he talked about the place, so why not simply take him at his word?
That's the problem you know. Which words are you to trust? There are some serious conflicts.
Ignatius Donnelly
...the Tuatha De Danann are represented as belonging to a race of mysterious origins which lives at the ends of the earth and who was supposedly driven from their home.
The Tuatha De Danann were the ancient inhabitants of Ireland who were forced to give way to the Gaels and to become the gods of Celtic imagination, the lords of the subterranean world.
Their uncertain origins combined with their curious stone constructions give them a cloak of mystery.
J.A MacCulloch
The meaning formerly given to Tuatha De Danann was "the men of science who were gods", Danann being here connected with dan, 'knowledge'.
from The Yellow Book of Lecan
There were four cities in which the Tuatha De Danann learnt wisdom and magic... Failias, Findias, Goirias and Murias.
(Note the similarity between Murias and Lemuria. If we take the "Le" to represent "the", then Le'Muria is likely the Murias of the De Danann.)
The De Danann brought an artifact from each city.
From Failias was brought the Lia Fail, which is at Tara, and which used to cry out under each king who assumed the sovereignty of Ireland. It never spoke except under a king of Ireland.
From Goirias was brought the sword which belonged to Nuada. No-one escaped the sword of Nuada after he had been wounded by it, and when it was drawn from its warlike scabbard, no-one could resist against him who had it in his hand.
From Findias was brought the spear of Lug. No battle was maintained against the spear of Lug or against him who had it in his hand. (It was said to operate on its own)
From Murias was brought the caldron of Dagda. Never went an assembly of guests away unsatisfied from the caldron of Dagda. (self replenishing)
Originally posted by srsen
reply to post by Harte
I beg to disagree with you - Plato is NOT the only source on Atlantis, it is merely the only scholarly source.
There is a significent amount of cultures whose mythologies and creation epics detail a now sunken continent from which their culture derived.
I will give but ONE example - The Tuatha De Danann
This tribe of the Goddess Danu arrived in Ireland at approximately 2000BC. THEIR OWN history stated that they originated from lost islands in the North West (Atlantic region).
Ignatius Donnelly
...the Tuatha De Danann are represented as belonging to a race of mysterious origins which lives at the ends of the earth and who was supposedly driven from their home.
The Tuatha De Danann were the ancient inhabitants of Ireland who were forced to give way to the Gaels and to become the gods of Celtic imagination, the lords of the subterranean world.
Their uncertain origins combined with their curious stone constructions give them a cloak of mystery.
J.A MacCulloch
The meaning formerly given to Tuatha De Danann was "the men of science who were gods", Danann being here connected with dan, 'knowledge'.
The meaning formerly given to Tuatha Dé Danann was "the men of science who were gods," danann being here connected with dán, "knowledge." But the true meaning is "the tribes or folk of the goddess Danu," 1 which agrees with the cognates Tuatha or Fir Dea, "tribes or men of the goddess." The name was given to the group, though Danu had only three sons, Brian, Iuchar, and Iucharbar. Hence the group is also called fir tri ndea, "men of the three gods." 2 The equivalents in Welsh story of Danu and her folk are Don and her children.
from The Yellow Book of Lecan
There were four cities in which the Tuatha De Danann learnt wisdom and magic... Failias, Findias, Goirias and Murias.
(Note the similarity between Murias and Lemuria. If we take the "Le" to represent "the", then Le'Muria is likely the Murias of the De Danann.)
Originally posted by srsen
Surely there is enough preliminary information here to classify the records and history of Tuatha De Danann as a basis for Atlantean research.
The technology was obviously advanced and yet we have no other indication to suggest an origin from anything other than lost homelands in the north-west.
I believe the De Danann were but one group connected to and part of the Atlantean Empire.
Originally posted by woodwytch
Queen Maudes Land, Antarctica;
IMHO, this was the original primary site and would obviously have been installed prior to the area becoming an icy wasteland. Even so, I think the structure ... a massive inverted pyramid (the same as all the other locations), is below ground-level.
The ice-cover makes this highly likely to be represented by the element of water
Originally posted by woodwytch
The most obvious reason is that they were 'markers' and 'access points'. But I think it was also (again symbolically), to reiterate 'As Above So Below' ... the God-like Atlanteans wanted to symbolically explain that not only was it a case of 'as above (ground) so below (ground) ... but also ... as above (space/heaven) so below (space/heaven).
Also, an inverted pyramid and an upright pyramid form a tetrahedron (sacred geometry) very important to all ancients ... is this why???
Originally posted by woodwytch
(NOTE);
Please understand and don't take offence at the fact that I can't divulge too many details. (A) I know nothing about you at this point (B) You mention you too write books (C) I don't want to walk into W H. Smith's Bookstore and see my data in someone else's book
Originally posted by Harte
The quote from Donnelly below is a joke, right? You realize you're quoting a retired politician with no knowledge whatsoever regarding what he's talking about. The book you quote from was written from his armchair in the Midwest U.S.A.
Originally posted by Harte
Is there a reason you truncated this quote?
The meaning formerly given to Tuatha Dé Danann was "the men of science who were gods," danann being here connected with dán, "knowledge."
Originally posted by Harte
Lemuria was the name of a nonexistent and supposedly sunken land bridge from Madagascar toward India that was postulated to explain the presence of lemur fossils on the mainland when lemurs were known to only exist on Madagascar.
Originally posted by Harte
There has never been any ancient claim of advanced Atlantean technology. Those claims came from fraudulent "channelers," like the convicted felon Edgar Cayce.
Originally posted by AmmonSeth
I would also like to emphasize how cultures from every corner of the world have a tale/myth/history that can be related to that of the western 'atlantis' mythos