posted on Jan, 15 2008 @ 11:03 PM
There's 2 problems here. 1 is obviously the comment from psychosis.
Obviously you know how i feel and while yeah i'm not gonna lie i know what i did was innapropriate..i can't apologize for it. This is not a hard
thing to see nor a complicated issue to me. I see very clearly someone taking a shot at a group that doesn't deserve it, and can't defend
Furthermore i see someone trying to play on peoples emotions using a sick "shock" tactic. HAve some class man come on, cowards? Are you serious? All
to do what? Advance some theory about microchips, or plug 9-11 suffering for some attention?
The only way to combat the type of drastic stance that someone like you makes on points..is to challenge it with an even more drastic response.
I "deserve to be chipped" lol my point exactly. People who spend all day spouting this type of forceful rehetoric to the masses..need to be stopped.
Not only stopped, but stood up against. Weather it be an internet forum or face to face, this is the type of # that's destroying our country.
And you wont respect a peaceful man of good will. Extreamists only understand extreame actions. People who have reserved themselves to this sort of
close minded behavior can't be reasoned with a lot of the time.
Someone needed to say something to you for that obnoxious comment and i've spoke my peace so i'm good. Think what you may like about me, but what i
said needed to be said and i feel better for saying it.
Belive what you will, but i can't let you desparage peoples dead moms, and sons, and friends in that manner. If ATS won't stand up to that, then i
will..that's why i feel it was neccecary for me to say the things i said to you.
The 2nd problem, and bigger one, is the ATS policy that's not doing anything about him. Weather or not you agree with how i acted or how they
reacted..The point is that they are selectively choosing what groups they want to protect. It probably gives a good insight to what they support, and
who their bias leans toward.
"All jews are cowards, they didn't stand up to hitler"
"All blacks are cowards, they should have fought slavery sooner"
"John Lear is a coward, he belives in holograms"
"9/11 truthers are cowards, they are all sheep who belive crazy fantasy"
"pot is awesome, i'm so stoned right now"
"hologram belivers are sooooo stupid"
"why do all you idiots belive dylan avery?"
"what kind of coward belives 9-11 mysteries"
"bhutto was coward"
"your mother is a coward, she didn't fight back when she was being raped"
See how offensive that speech is? Now consider "people on the planes were cowards, including 8th grade children who would have been to small to stop
That's what ATS is letting psychosis get away with.
To me that's unnaceptable. Actually that should be unnaceptable to anyone with half a brain. Wonder why the supposed "mainstream" people call you
crazy? It's exactly because of logic like that.
You can have policies, rules, or whatever..but don't be hypocrites. I'm sure many people could make the case that less offensive things (speaking in
terms of what's offensive to the majority of people) have gone severly punished here.
Everthing i said is a paraphraze, or a direct quote of something i've seen someone get in trouble for. Yet how...on a board that claims to want
"decor" and all types of "proper" behavior from it's members...how does a board like that let a guy get away with calling 9-11 victims
Thats equally as offensive as the quotes i came up with. Matter fact, in all fairness i think what psychosis said could be considered "hate speach"
more than those quotes i created, because it offends more people.
What about 9-11 widows? You claim to want whats best for them and care about investigations and all this..but you allow one of your own members to
call their dead husbands cowards? There's a serious problem with the logic behind that.
Open discussion is great, but please don't let someone dishonor the name of someones dead loved one like that. IF you are so above and respectful and
all this, then be fair to both sides and have someone do something about that spesific comment.
LEave whatever else you like i could care less what the rest of this thread was about..but seriously, follow the policies that you claim to go by, and
do something about those few lines.
How can you expect us to take you seriously if you dont? how can we show you respect and give you credit, when you let something as vulgar, tastesss,
insensitive, and idiotic as that comment slide?
You expect all this respect and tolerance for all these wild opinions, but wanna crack down on the slightest thing you find offensive. Trivial things.
Things that most other people wouldn't even care about. Sentances not quite phrased the right way, minor pot references, quotes that are "to
Yet when something TRULEY OFFENSIVE gets said..it gets defended. No we can't call someone an idiot cause they belive in holograms, but it's ok to
call the murdered children "cowards". THat's unforgiveable. I won't support people, or orgainizations that belive that's ok.
I won't support people who protect people that say such outlandish things. it's gotta work both ways and there's no way i'm about to let anyone,
mods, members...anyone..sit up here and say it's not ok to call jon lear and idiot (coward if you wish to use psychosis exact word), but say it IS ok
to call murdered children, women, and men..cowards.
How long will you all stand for this honestly? I have no intentions of changing anyones minds but seriously, wake up. Can't you see that lies are
lies? You would follow someone so phony and misguided..that they would call undeserving victims cowards..yet label anyone who won't blindly belive
your hologram story on good faith, a sheep? Yes, i am sorry that i don't buy into this religion.
This sounds suspiciously like the tactics you despise so much..and that is rallying peoples emotions and strikeing fear into the consumer.
This has nothing with me disagreeing with someone, this is about blatent side-playing, and hypocrisy. Anybody that calls a murder victim a coward, is
an even bigger coward than the person they desparage..and anybody who supports those types of cowards, are the biggest cowards of all.