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New Hampshire GOP Pulls Support For FOX Debate

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posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 05:13 PM
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New Hampshire GOP Pulls Support For FOX Debate


www.kcrg.com

“This principle applies to tonight’s debates on ABC as well as Sunday’s planned forum on FOX. The New Hampshire Republican Party believes Congressmen Ron Paul and Duncan Hunter should be included in the FOX forum on Sunday evening. Our mutual efforts to resolve this difference have failed,” he continued.

“While we understand that FOX News continues to move forward it is with regret, the New Hampshire Republican Party hereby withdraws as a partner in this forum.”
(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 05:13 PM
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Its about time the Republican party says something

www.kcrg.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

[edit on 1/5/2008 by zman]

[edit on 1/5/2008 by zman]



posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 05:18 PM
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This is a win/win for my man Ron Paul!

He gets the attention and Fux News get further exposed as Propaganda!

Off topic kinda, I just read this on yahoo news!

Huckabee Hypocrite:


_He decided not to air a commercial attacking Romney but played it for journalists, anyway.

_He said he supports the Hollywood writers' strike but crossed the picket line to appear on the Jay Leno's "Tonight" show.

_He campaigned at a casino in Burlington, Iowa, despite his opposition to gambling.

Even his senior aides have had trouble keeping their story straight. Asked about Romney saying he'd won the "silver" in Thursday's caucuses, campaign manager Chip Saltzman said he wouldn't go there.

"You know, one of the things that we try to do as a campaign is always worry about our campaign and not necessarily comment about what the other folks have done," Saltzman said at a news conference outside Huckabee's victory party. "And we're going to try to continue to do that."

Moments later, campaign chairman Ed Rollins leaned into the microphone and went there.

"I'm glad that Governor Romney is happy with his silver, but my experience in politics is there are no bronzes and silvers," Rollins said.

"You win, and you get to go on and govern. You lose, you go home. He doesn't, obviously, have to go home. There's more states to compete in. But I think to a certain extent, he'll have to rethink more of what he does than we're going to have to rethink what we do.

"Because he had the best consultants, the best media people, all the polling in the world, all the money in the world, and he just lost and lost fairly badly."

Rollins, a political brawler who managed President Reagan's re-election campaign in 1984, joined the Huckabee camp only three weeks ago and has contributed to some of its growing pains.

It was Rollins who persuaded Huckabee to go negative with attack ads against Romney; ultimately, Huckabee decided not to run the commercial. And it was Rollins who recommended playing it, anyway, at a news conference where the campaign had planned to unveil the attack.

In the end, the gambit seemed to have worked; many voters said they liked that Huckabee decided not to run attack ads.

Rollins is hardly the only reason for the campaign's problems. Huckabee's shoestring operation has struggled to keep up with his swift ascent in the polls, scrambling with tasks that other campaigns are accustomed to, like booking buses or a plane for the throng of journalists who cover him.

Huckabee himself has struggled to keep up. Last month, he was unaware of a report the White House had released saying Iran had halted its nuclear weapons program, and he flubbed his response to the assassination of Pakistan's former prime minister, Benazir Bhutto, expressing apologies when he meant to say sympathies. He also warned that Pakistan is second only to Latin America in the number of immigrants in the U.S. illegally, which is not true.



posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 05:28 PM
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Well this is impressive indeed. I am proud of NH republican's for standing by their party, now if only the rest of the states will follow suit. flagged and starred

[edit on 5-1-2008 by SEEWHATUDO]



posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 05:31 PM
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So Much for fair and balanced when even the republican party withdraws support

[edit on 1/5/2008 by zman]



posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 05:37 PM
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Ron Paul supporters hitting the streets in NH . abcnews.go.com...

For all the speculation this election season over exactly who Ron Paul's supporters are, for once there was no question.



posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 05:44 PM
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Now being picked up on the news wires .. Yippee
www.reuters.com...

ARLINGTON, Va.--(Business Wire)--The Ron Paul 2008 presidential campaign praises the New Hampshire
Republican Party's decision to pull its sponsorship of the Fox News
forum in protest of Fox's decision to exclude Congressman Ron Paul.

"The New Hampshire Republican Party did the right thing by pulling
its sponsorship for Fox's candidate forum," said Ron Paul 2008
spokesman Jesse Benton. "'Fox News' decision to exclude Congressman
Paul is unfair, but it won't stop Dr. Paul's message of freedom, peace
and prosperity from resonating with the people of New Hampshire

[edit on 1/5/2008 by zman]



posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 05:50 PM
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From the NH GOP website : www.nhgop.org...
NH REPUBLICAN PARTY WITHDRAWS AS FOX FORUM PARTNER
CONCORD – New Hampshire Republican Party Chairman Fergus Cullen releases the following statement regarding Sunday’s Republican forum on FOX:

“The first-in-the-nation New Hampshire primary serves a national purpose by giving all candidates an equal opportunity on a level playing field. Only in New Hampshire do lesser known, lesser funded underdogs have a fighting chance to establish themselves as national figures. Consistent with that tradition, we believe all recognized major candidates should have an equal opportunity to participate in pre-primary debates and forums.

“This principle applies to tonight’s debates on ABC as well as Sunday’s planned forum on FOX. The New Hampshire Republican Party believes Congressmen Ron Paul and Duncan Hunter should be included in the FOX forum on Sunday evening. Our mutual efforts to resolve this difference have failed.”

“While we understand that FOX News continues to move forward it is with regret, the New Hampshire Republican Party hereby withdraws as a partner in this forum.”

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posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 06:13 PM
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Errr Ron Paul is on the screen now on ABC, is this an about-face or what!!!!!!!!!!!!? Go on Ron, come out with sum real #. Rudy is such a slime ball.

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posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by Peruvianmonk
Errr Ron Paul is on the screen now on ABC, is this an about-face or what!!!!!!!!!!!!? Go on Ron, come out with sum real #. Rudy is such a slime ball.

[edit on 5-1-2008 by Peruvianmonk]


Fox news on Sunday was what the post was about, the fair and balanced station , I saw the ABC was as well, sound monitary policy is great is it not. But yeah the NH GOP pulled its support for FOX debate tomorrow.



posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 08:58 PM
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Oh right, did u notice they didn't give Ron Paul the amount of time as the others and that in the ABC 'Spin room' They had a reporter for all the candidates apart from Ron Paul

And what were all those hypethetical questiona about nuclear terrorisim in the democrat debate. Ridiculous, Pakistans weapons aren't going anywhere. R they just trying to question whether the Democrats will be as 'strong' on terrorisim as the Republicans? Stupid stupid questions.

[edit on 5-1-2008 by Peruvianmonk]



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 07:32 AM
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Are the GOP in NH urging the canidates too pull out of the FOX debate ? . www.dailypaul.com...

We, the undersigned present and past New Hampshire House Republican State Representatives, respectfully request that unless Fox News agrees within the next 24 hours to invite Ron Paul and Duncan Hunter to participate with the other candidates at their Forum on Jan 6, 2008 you:

1) Pull all Republican cooperation from the Fox Forum,

2) Ask the candidates included to back out, and

3) Go public with a formal press conference denouncing of the exclusionary anti-representational policies of Fox News

Sincerely,

Hon. Paul Ingbretson
Hon. Al Baldasaro
Hon. Howie Lund
Hon. DJ Bettencourt
Hon. Jason Bedrick
Hon. Moe Villeneuve
Hon. Dan Dumaine
Hon. Andrew Renzullo
Hon. Duncan Chaplin
Hon. Laurie Boyce
Hon. Paul Hopfgarten
Hon. Lynne Ober
Hon. Steve Hellwig
Hon. Paul Mirski
Hon. William O'Brien
Hon. Jordan Ulery
Hon. Pamela Manney
Hon. Dan Itse
Hon. Bob Boyce
Hon. Mike Harrington
Hon. Nancy Elliot
Hon. Bob Mead



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 08:16 AM
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ahhh...fox got their hand slapped by their masters, what a shame!!

it's about time they said something!!

all voices should be heard, why not, since most of them are so unimpressive. add more, maybe one will pop up that we like?



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 09:41 AM
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Originally posted by Peruvianmonk
And what were all those hypethetical questiona about nuclear terrorisim in the democrat debate. Ridiculous, Pakistans weapons aren't going anywhere. R they just trying to question whether the Democrats will be as 'strong' on terrorisim as the Republicans? Stupid stupid questions.

[edit on 5-1-2008 by Peruvianmonk]

Whether or not the Democrats will be strong against terrorism is a very valid concern, imo.



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 10:43 AM
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Why? How have the Republicans been strong on Terrorisim? They created more with the Iraq war, Support for Israel etc etc. Plus they haven't caught Bin Laden, not really strong is it.



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 01:35 PM
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Us being 'strong' on terror is exactly why there are more terrorists now then before. The War on Terror is a joke! An absolute fallacy, more people have been killed by White Tail Deer then by terrorists.

Until we understand that it is precisely our foreign policy fueling any type extremism, we will never put an end to terrorism.

Until we understand what BLOW BACK is, this will never end. But I think the people in charge realize this and continue to occupy, invade and spend $$ that could be better spent here stateside then over destabilizing the M.E. making the war profiteers rich with borrowed money from other countries, namely the Chinese. If we do not get Ron Paul in office, we will fight terrorism all the way to the poorhouse. We are better then halfway there now!


By definition of 'terrorism' USA is the one who fits that bill the best.



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 03:02 PM
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All the candidates like war except Ron Paul. The difference is that the Dems hate the "Iraq War" not war they love war too just like all nwo scum. The republicans are the same no difference.

Ron Paul is a non-interventionist and thinks pre-emptive strikes are foolish. Ron Paul is right they are wrong end of story. There are no Islamo fascists coming for us like Rudy Gouliani says the only fascists are the ones here at home in our government.

Its good he was left out because now the story of the forum is the missing Ron Paul and seriously a debate without Ron Paul is just a secret society discussion group televised.

It will be the worst rated TV fox has had all year. The people who watch fox debates are already a little retarded so even if RP was there they wouldn't be able to understand him



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 03:09 PM
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QuasiShaman is correct, "getting tough" is half our problem.

People seem to miss the strategic purpose of terrorism, which has been consistent for quite a while.

The terrorist is an agent provocateur.
The terrorist does not seek to accomplish his goals via actual action, unlike a traditional military actor.
Instead he seeks to provoke a reaction.

The IRA did it very well:
1) The terrorist launches an attack, preferably one that gets lots of media attention.
2) The target .gov, reacting to public pressure (or perhaps looking for an excuse), launches a crackdown or attack against the terrorists' presumed supporters that inevitably increases anger and stiffens resistance among the the terrorists' target recruiting population.
2) The terrorist now has a) increased support for his cause b) increased the level of instability in the target region c) forced the opponent .gov to appear weak and behave in a more reactionary manner.

What's important to note is, the stronger, tougher reaction inevitably strengthens the terrorists hand.

That's the whole point.

It's a technique that a small, dedicated group can use over time to gain power over a larger opponent.

It works very well.
I cannot recall a case in which a terrorist campaign has been halted successfully by force alone or even primarily.

Of course, it's not a very emotionally satisfying fact.
Rah rah testosterone-addled "get tough" rhetoric sells better than the truth.

And so terrorism continues to succeed.

_____________________________________________________________

Anyway, back on topic.
It's not surprising that much of the Right hates Ron Paul.
Fox is in bed with the while interventionist/militarist wing of the Republican Party.

His presence in the race is a spoiler for this faction (which is powerful as hell, being well funded by the defense industry and it's massive lobbying organs) and they are determined to marginalize and ignore him as much as possible.

His message of non-interventionism is a dose of strong medicine for them, because they can't use their usual methods of painting him and all opponents of our interventionist foreign policy as "liberal" and "weak" - a pejorative meme set they have been carefully cultivating for at least 20 years.


[edit on 1/6/08 by xmotex]



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 03:37 PM
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Not to jump on Ron Pauls bandwagon, but he did in Iowa beat the major of the US and Mr. Thomson, and he one a county. I do not understand why they even had the mayor of the US ( self proclaimed by the way) as he lost his shirt.

Something is unfair and unbalanced here and I want everyone to know.



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 03:59 PM
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Discussing the broader success of the campaign, Paul said, "Everybody's upbeat and they wanna win but they are also very realistic to know what is the future regardless of what's gonna happen....how can we keep working this, how can we keep our group together....I think we've really opened the eyes of a lot of people so there's reason to be optimistic," said Paul.

The Congressman added that the New World Order must be defeated not with weapons but with ideas and that the movement which he is now the figurehead for is much larger than he ever dreamed it would be.
Taken from the Alex Jones web page here : ( www.infowars.com... )
There is an MP3 Interview there as well. Enjoy



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