NWO is responsible for concert pitch A-440hz

Originally posted by Incarnated
Yay!!! now I have to go back and read the whole thread?

Yes; enjoy!


...and tune to A 432.

Wow!
As a musician, I am intrigued. I can see where guys like Vai and Satch should pay close attention to what you are saying. Have you been able to make them aware of this? They generally have a spiritual feel to their tunes. (As do your tunes) Nice work brother!

I was watching the video with the sand resonating just yesterday. The patterns defined at different frequencies coincides with patterns found at Rosalyn Chapel. I found that interesting as well.

As for myself, I play what most people call death metal tuned down to D standard or drop C. So A=440 would probably be in my best interest to keep the listener "uneasy"

Originally posted by Lanimilbus
So A=440 would probably be in my best interest to keep the listener "uneasy"

Oh c'mon! Four thirty-two can work for you.

Originally posted by michial
This is a good thread because it is bringing out some interesting ideas but the original tital and premise of this thread has already been proven to be inaccurate and it is attracting posters who like to accredit or blame the NAZIs circa World War 2 era for everything. Now if you want to try and prove to me accurately that the people who ORIGINALLY decided on the standard were each a member of the NAZI party, I might be interested in your NWO theory. Please stick to the facts.

The coffer frequency in the pyramid of Egypt was 440 Hertz.
And the Phoenix bird (aka Double Headed Eagle) gives the phoenix.
www.cuttingedge.org...

The same as the NAZI coats.
en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by hawk123
reply to post by nscopheacriaaclters

 

Just follow the Timaeus Locris Scale for the main frequencies derived from PLATO:
hharlestonjr.com...

Figure 7 on page 14:
RATIOS: FREQUENCIES:
9/8 384 Mi = Earth = 8 x 8 x 6
9/8 432 Re
9/8 486 Ut
256/243 512 Si
9/8 576 La
9/8 648 Sol
9/8 729 Fa
256/243 768 Mi
9/8 864 Re
9/8 972 Ut
256/243 1024 Si
9/8 1152 La
9/8 1296 Sol
9/8 1458 Fa
256/243 1536 Mi
9/8 1728 Re
9/8 1944 Ut
256/243 2048 Si
+139(apotome) 2187 Si_apotome
256/243 2304 La
9/8 2592 Sol
9/8 2916 Fa
256/243 3072 Mi
9/8 3456 Re
9/8 3888 Ut
9/8 4374 Si
256/243 4608 La
9/8 5184 Sol
9/8 5832 Fa
256/243 6144 Mi
+417(apotome) 6561 Mi_apotome
256/243 6912 Re
9/8 7776 Ut
9/8 8748 Si
256/243 9216 La
9/8 10368 Sol = 384 x 27 = Heaven
==================
Sum = 114695

Locrian started with number 384.
Plato started with number 192.
The Heaven frequency: 10368 = 192 x 54 = 96 x 108 = 48 x 216
www.spirasolaris.ca...

[edit on 19-11-2008 by hawk123]

13 lunations of the Moon comes to 384+/-1 days.

The pyramid holds 44 x 384 hertz harmonics.
The pyramid coffin holds 440 hertz.

Now it comes together in the pyramid as a difference of 8 Hz.
www.432hz.net...

And now the Swiss CERN particle accelerator will test multiple other dimensions.

Is CERN the new pyramid generator for this earth and switched on again in 2012 ?





[edit on 24-11-2008 by hawk123]

What's with these "solfeggio frequencies" [396, 417, 528, 639, 741, 852] some sites are pushing? They're hideous, in my view.

reply to post by nscopheacriaaclters


forums.abrahadabra.com...
Solfeggio:
396 + 741 = 1110 (YIN / YANG)
417 + 693 = 1110
528 + 582 = 1110
639 + 471 = 1110
741 + 369 = 1110
852 + 258 = 1110
microprosopus = 1110

Solfeggio holds the Baphomet key (528 Hertz)
Baphomet is the Atbash encoded word Sophia
See page 45 in this thread. (528 = 6/5 x 440)
wordpress.com...

Baphomet = Temple of peace amongst men =
Baphomet = Templi omnium hominum pads
Tem = duplex (double), oph = avis (bird), ab = generatio ( progeny),
TEM = 440 OPH = 86 AB = 2 = 440 + 88 = 528 Hertz
TEM = duplex, OPH = avis, AB = generation
TEM = double, OPH = bird, AB = progeny
The sound of the Illuminati 's Double Headed Eagle
www.scottishritemasons-can.org...

528 x 60 = 440 x 72 = 31680
www.harmonictheory.com...

Even worser is that Solfeggio 528 is good for your health.
The medical profession uses the winged caduceus, symbol of Mercury
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...
440 + 88 = 528 (Mercury travels in 88 days around the sun)

Solfeggio is indeed hideous.


[edit on 25-11-2008 by hawk123]

Originally posted by nscopheacriaaclters
Over the range of an octave, say either 256 to 512, or 432 to 864, what complete set frequencies should be included, so as to include all twelve pitch classes (with possible variants of a single class to accommodate various intervals)?

From what I can see, we can agree on...
C 256
C#\Db ???\???
D 288
D#\Eb ???\???
E 324
F ???
F#\Gb 364.5\???
G 384
G#\Ab ???\???
A 432
A#\Bb ???\???
B 486
C 512

How do we fill in the ???'s (and there can be more, too)? Do we use an extended Pythagorean spiral, like something that'd allow us to have a C# of 540.518, or 432[(3:2)^45]:2^26, or an alternate E of 320.31 for that matter?

[edit on 18-11-2008 by nscopheacriaaclters]

Finally I found that a reference to this thread was made on:
www.terugnaar432hz.org...
See on that page the link to: (Page 11, 12 and 13)
www.terugnaar432hz.org...

If Jacques Groenen’s Magical Formula for I-J Tuning is correct, then the sharp # numbers should be:
C 256
C# 273,375
D 288
D#307,546875
E 324
F 364,5
F#370
G 384
G#410,0625
A 432
A#461,3203125
B 486
C 512
Be aware that there is a lot of mistuning in 432 Hz, by having the wrong intervals.
The formula of Jaques Groenen sounds mathemetical the correct one.
What is Bobby using ?

THE MASS-UNTUNING MANIPULATION from the cradle to the grave music is the worst we have on earth. See page 9
www.terugnaar432hz.org...


[edit on 27-11-2008 by hawk123]

[edit on 27-11-2008 by hawk123]

Originally posted by hawk123
If Jacques Groenen’s Magical Formula for I-J Tuning is correct, then the sharp # numbers should be:
C 256
C# 273,375
D 288
D#307,546875
E 324
F 364,5
F#370
G 384
G#410,0625
A 432
A#461,3203125
B 486
C 512

Shouldn't 364.5 be an F# if we carry out the Pythagorean logic that prevails up to that point?

reply to post by nscopheacriaaclters

do you think you could figure out what the sollfegio frequencies
would be if they were at 432?
that would be cool
thanx
-Bobby

reply to post by MischeviousElf

the Chanting is Beautiful.... thank you so much for this find...kudos to you

May I be the first one to confirm that this chanting is indeed in 432.
I tested it against a 432 tuned guitar, a 432hz tone as well as my own 432
music and I hear a perfect match....

man..... the implications of this are stunning to say the least..

no matter where i look, 432 is IN FACT ..natures pulse..

THE UNIVERSAL RESONANCE... sweet

imagine what all this means to the scientific and spiritual understanding
of the universe and reality?

the Music Logarithmic Spiral is the key to ALL SCIENCE.

science and spirituality are 2 sides of the same coin.

I thank you everyone for your unprecedented and spectacular
contributions to this phenomena .

-music is magic
-Bobby

Originally posted by Maya432
reply to post by nscopheacriaaclters

 

do you think you could figure out what the sollfegio frequencies
would be if they were at 432?
that would be cool
thanx
-Bobby

Hey, Bobby!

When I think of basic solfege, I think of the diatonic scale. The frequencies some sites call "solfeggio frequencies" don't form a diatonic scale (though two pairs are a pure fourth (4:3) apart.

If we do want to form a diatonic scale with 432 as the root (A major), we'd need to agree on what frequency C# would be. I'm personally fine with 540 Hz, using a 5:4 ratio, but I'm not sure if hawk would agree.

432
486 (9:8)
540 (5:4)
576 (4:3)
648 (3:2)
720 (5:3)
810 (15:8)
864 (2:1)

If you want pure triads from each of the seven fundamentals, you need two more frequencies to round out the ii chord. In this case, they'd be 583.2 and 729.

From C 256...

256
288
320
341.333
384
426.667
480
512

345.6 and 432 would need to be added to complete the D minor triad from 288.


We could also form major scales from Pythagorean fundamentals. Let's see what hawk has to say on that.

I apologize if you mean something other than diatonic scales.


[edit on 27-11-2008 by nscopheacriaaclters]

reply to post by nscopheacriaaclters

thanx
but I meant more just the notes themselves..
you know ...like...to adjust each note till it matches the
432.
Not sure if i`m explaining it right or if its possible..
was just real curious..
thanx again.
ps. I also dig your concept of a base 12 math system.
cool

Oh okay, I think I know what you mean...

Taking the above frequencies; 396, 417, 528, 639, 741, 852


We can bump the 417 up to 432. Then, we'd have...

410.2446
432
546.9928
661.9856
767.6547
882.6475


From 396, we have the ratios...

139:132
4:3
71:44
247:132
71:33

Bumping 396 up to 432, we'd have...

432
454.9091
576
697.0909
808.3636
929.4545

Originally posted by Maya432
ps. I also dig your concept of a base 12 math system.
cool

Base-10 works, but I love the base-12 stuff. It was that sort of thing that first brought me to A 432.

[edit on 27-11-2008 by nscopheacriaaclters]

Can anyone break this down and explain it ??

The B.B.C. tuning-note is derived from an oscillator controlled by a piezo-electric crystal
that vibrates with a frequency of one million Hz. This is reduced to a frequency of 1,000 Hz
by electronic dividers; it is then multiplied eleven times and divided by twenty-five, so
producing the required frequency of 440 Hz.

thanx again.
-Bobby

Originally posted by Maya432
Can anyone break this down and explain it ??

The B.B.C. tuning-note is derived from an oscillator controlled by a piezo-electric crystal
that vibrates with a frequency of one million Hz. This is reduced to a frequency of 1,000 Hz
by electronic dividers; it is then multiplied eleven times and divided by twenty-five, so
producing the required frequency of 440 Hz.

thanx again.
-Bobby

The BBC used a crystal oscillator. The crystals (sometimes quartz) can be cut and ground to vibrate at a chosen frequency, a million Hz in this case (the crystals used in watches are shaped to vibrate at 2^15 Hz, seven octaves above C 256). Then they're just saying they electronically took their million hertz frequency and reduced it to the chosen frequency of 440. 1000*11:25 = 11000:25 = 440.

They could just as well have multiplied it by 54:125 to get 432, or started with a crystal of a different base frequency (a power of two or twelve would work well).


[edit on 28-11-2008 by nscopheacriaaclters]

Those "solfeggio frequencies" seem to include a lot of digits rearrangement. Those six frequencies are three sets of rearranged digits. We have better patterns in A 432...

B 243
E 324
A 432

And an octave higher...

B 486
E 648
A 864

This is very amazing. I am searching the net for more info and I'm ecstatic at all that I have learned.............Thank you.

Originally posted by nscopheacriaaclters

Shouldn't 364.5 be an F# if we carry out the Pythagorean logic that prevails up to that point?

No, in Pythagorean logic 364,5 is F instead of F#. The table is:

Re A 216 432 864 1728 3456 (9/8)
Ut B 243 486 972 1944 3888 (256/243)
Si C 256 512 1024 2048 4096 (9/8)
La D 288 576 1152 2304 4608 (9/8)
Sol E 324 648 1296 2592 5184 (9/8)
Fa F 364,5 729 1458 2916 5832 (256/243)
Mi G 384 768 1536 3072 6144 (9/8)

A step to Si (C) or Mi (G) is always a Semitone/Leimma (256/243)


Bobby also made a mistake by selecting for F: 341


[edit on 28-11-2008 by hawk123]

Originally posted by hawk123

Originally posted by nscopheacriaaclters

Shouldn't 364.5 be an F# if we carry out the Pythagorean logic that prevails up to that point?

No, in Pythagorean logic 364,5 is F instead of F#.
The table is:
Re A 216 432 864 1728 3456
Ut B 243 486 972 1944 3888
Si C 256 512 1024 2048 4096
La D 288 576 1152 2304 4608
Sol E 324 648 1296 2592 5184
Fa F 364,5 729 1458 2916 5832
Mi G 384 768 1536 3072 6144

Bobby also made a mistake by selecting for F: 341


[edit on 28-11-2008 by hawk123]

B is 243 (240 in some non-Pythagorean forms). 243*3:2 is 364.5. A perfect fifth from B is F#. That means 364.5 is an F#.

I think you're being confused by the fact B has a diminished diatonic triad in the C major key, so the F above it doesn't make a 3:2 ratio.


In Pythagorean tuning starting from C 256 and ascending, F is about 345.99. Descending from C 512, or using a Just 4:3 ratio from 256, F is 341.333, close to Bobby's 341 (1.69 cents difference).





[edit on 28-11-2008 by nscopheacriaaclters]