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# NWO is responsible for concert pitch A-440hz

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posted on Dec, 17 2008 @ 01:40 PM
It's ridiculous to assume the old music was based on an A at 432Hz! No music historian would take seriously that claim - all the evidence points to the contrary - the pitch varied widely - not only between various cities in Europe but also between instruments!

In fact there were no serious attempts to standardize pitch until the end of the 19th century.

For example:

Some idea of the variance in pitches can be gained by examining old pitchpipes, organ pipes and other sources. For example, an English pitchpipe from 1720 plays the A above middle C at 380 Hz, while the organs played by Johann Sebastian Bach in Hamburg, Leipzig and Weimar were pitched at A = 480 Hz, a difference of around four semitones. In other words, the A produced by the 1720 pitchpipe would have been at the same frequency as the F on one of Bach's organs. From the early 18th century, pitch could be also controlled with the use of tuning forks (invented in 1711), although again there was variation. For example, a tuning fork associated with Handel, dating from 1740, is pitched at A = 422.5 Hz, while a later one from 1780 is pitched at A = 409 Hz, almost a semitone lower. Nonetheless, there was a tendency towards the end of the 18th century for the frequency of the A above middle C to be in the range of 400 to 450 Hz

Pitch

[edit on 17-12-2008 by zamolxis]

posted on Dec, 18 2008 @ 01:39 PM
Johann Sebastian Bach music is also linked to the number 11, just like 440 Hertz.

Bach = 2 + 1 + 3 + 8 = 14 = 11 (earth) + 3 (moon)
J.S. Bach = 9 + 18 + 2 + 1 + 3 + 8 = 27 + 14 = 41
In old German notation, as in Latin, "I" and "J" were the same letter

www.tjako.sollie-dsl.nl...
44=30+14 (=3*10+14 =XXX+14)(or maybe 41+3=J.S.Bach+Holy Trinity)
JSBach + Bach = 41 + 14 = 55

Search the Internet on:
> JS Bach 14 41 gematria
and you find a lot of interesting articles.

Bach 14 number can be decoded as:
11 x 360 = 3960 (Radius earth)
3 x 360 = 1080 (Radius moon)
14 x 360 = 5040 (Radius earth + moon) (Plato 's secret code)

www.odeion.org...

5040 = 1 × 2 × 3 × 4 × 5 × 6 × 7 = 7! (radius earth + moon)
The circle is 2 x 5040 x (22/7) Pi = 31680
31680 = 72 x 440 = 60 x 528 (Baphomet code)

www.geocities.com... Frederick the Great
Again evidence that 440 is linked to Masons and NWO

[edit on 18-12-2008 by hawk123]

posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 02:52 PM
In the book "The History of Music": (page 491),
the german Johann Heinrich Scheibler advocated in 1834 the Stuttgart pitch. (A=440 and C=528)

It includes again the 528 Baphomet code, which can also be found in Solfeggio.

Scheibler's recommendation for A=440 as an international pitch standard had been adopted by a Congress of Physicists (Deutsche Naturforscherversammlung) in Stuttgart in 1834

[edit on 21-12-2008 by hawk123]

posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 03:55 PM

Originally posted by hawk123
In the book "The History of Music": (page 491),
the german Johann Heinrich Scheibler advocated in 1834 the Stuttgart pitch. (A=440 and C=528)

It includes again the 528 Baphomet code, which can also be found in Solfeggio.

Scheibler's recommendation for A=440 as an international pitch standard had been adopted by a Congress of Physicists (Deutsche Naturforscherversammlung) in Stuttgart in 1834

[edit on 21-12-2008 by hawk123]

They should have listened to Sauveur and adopted C 256.

[edit on 21-12-2008 by nscopheacriaaclters]

posted on Dec, 22 2008 @ 12:30 PM

Originally posted by nscopheacriaaclters

Originally posted by hawk123
In the book "The History of Music": (page 491),
the german Johann Heinrich Scheibler advocated in 1834 the Stuttgart pitch. (A=440 and C=528)

It includes again the 528 Baphomet code, which can also be found in Solfeggio.

Scheibler's recommendation for A=440 as an international pitch standard had been adopted by a Congress of Physicists (Deutsche Naturforscherversammlung) in Stuttgart in 1834

[edit on 21-12-2008 by hawk123]

They should have listened to Sauveur and adopted C 256.

[edit on 21-12-2008 by nscopheacriaaclters]

I totally agree that they should have listened to Sauveur and adopt 256.
The same proposal is now made by:
www.schillerinstitute.org...
C=256 as a "Keplerian interval"

posted on Dec, 22 2008 @ 12:53 PM

I am a professional musician. I have been playing music for 20 years. I have a degree as an audio engineer. This is crap!

Chromatic tuning came about during the classical period, from the likes of Hayden, Mozart and Beethoven.

Doing a mathematical equation with the Fibonacci sequence, the key of E would be harmonious.

This poster is searching for fans.

NWO has nothing to do with this.

NEXT!

posted on Dec, 25 2008 @ 10:31 PM
Convert all units to SI and then try it. The rest of the world doesn't work in miles and feet. Go learn some real math/physics before you make these outlandish claims.

There is no such thing as an actual "perfect" pitch. All measurements are subject to error. Measurements is a man made phenomenon used to describe the physical world. All these numbers are a result of measurements systems created by man, dependent on our concept of change in time of a "second."

What is second? Can you describe what a second is? What type of measurements is time? Go study some relativity, and stop trying to use math before you know how the hell to use it.

posted on Dec, 26 2008 @ 02:44 PM

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
Convert all units to SI and then try it.

What is second? Can you describe what a second is? What type of measurements is time? Go study some relativity, and stop trying to use math before you know how the hell to use it.

The SI unit of a second is described in the NIST standard:
physics.nist.gov...

The second is the duration of 9 192 631 770 periods of the radiation
corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the
ground state of the cesium 133 atom.

Before this new SI definition it was:
The unit of time, the second, was at one time considered to be the fraction 1/86400 of the mean solar day. (86400 = 432 x 200)

If you have been in another space/time curve, then please let us know how music sounds there.

posted on Dec, 26 2008 @ 03:31 PM

It's ridiculous to assume the old music was based on an A at 432Hz!

who said this?...not I.......
who ever said that old music is 432?..

I`ve said that 432hz is knowledge from thousands of years ago..

don`t put words in peoples mouths...

posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 02:22 PM

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
Convert all units to SI and then try it. The rest of the world doesn't work in miles and feet.

The entire aviation world uses feet for altitude.

Speaking of physics, the C 256 scale is sometimes called the "physicists scale." A 432 is, of course, related to C 256 in Pythagorean tuning. C 256 tuning forks are available and used in science classes, but have gone largely unused by musicians. Time to change that!

posted on Jan, 1 2009 @ 12:05 PM
Happy newyear, but is there any newyears concert in 432 Hertz.
I only got invitations for the bad stuff.

posted on Jan, 1 2009 @ 07:32 PM
Haven't read the thread, but I do play guitar. (No surprise to musicians.)

I was having trouble figuring out Amy Winehouse's "Take the Box", the version she sang at the Mercury Awards some years ago, until I realized that her band wasn't tuned to A-440.

They were tuned to A-435,

Largely due to their (vocalists') protests, the French government passed a law on February 16, 1859 which set the A above middle C at 435 Hz. This was the first attempt to standardize pitch on such a scale, and was known as the diapason normal. It became quite a popular pitch standard outside of France as well, and has also been known at various times as French pitch, continental pitch or international pitch (the last of these not to be confused with the 1939 "international standard pitch" described below).

en.wikipedia.org...

My ears like the lower pitch so I left the guitar as A-435. Now I'm living happily ever afterward!

posted on Jan, 2 2009 @ 01:29 AM

Originally posted by hawk123
Happy newyear, but is there any newyears concert in 432 Hertz.

Not of which I'm aware. We need a global A 432 musical event.

Originally posted by ipsedixit

Largely due to their (vocalists') protests, the French government passed a law on February 16, 1859 which set the A above middle C at 435 Hz. This was the first attempt to standardize pitch on such a scale, and was known as the diapason normal.

en.wikipedia.org...

I've suggested referring to A 432 as the "diapason philosophique" as kind of a hybridization of terms.

posted on Jan, 2 2009 @ 07:51 AM

My ears are definitely more comfortable in a lower register. My emotional temperature is not so "hot", but rather more reflective and quiet. But having said that, I don't know enough about the technical issues involved to have a strong point of view as to what A above middle C should be.

posted on Jan, 4 2009 @ 09:38 AM
Now it is clear how Bach encoded his name in 440.

Bach = 2 + 1 + 3 + 8 = 14 = 11 (earth) + 3 (moon)
J.S. Bach = 9 + 18 + 2 + 1 + 3 + 8 = 27 + 14 = 41
In old German notation, as in Latin, "I" and "J" were the same letter

JSBach + Bach = 41 (mirror) + 14 = 55
Multiplying the left frequency with 6/5 gives the frequency on the right side.

55 hertz 66 (hidden light) (Hebrew: Or ha-Ganuz) (Greek: yavan)
110 hertz 132
220 hertz 264
440 hertz 528 (Baphomet)
880 hertz 1056
1760 hertz 2112
3520 hertz 4224

www.biblewheel.com... (66 = Galgal wheel)
www.biblewheel.com... (528 = 8 x 66)
(Octave/New Beginings)

[edit on 4-1-2009 by hawk123]

posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 09:57 AM

Bach and Handel were Baroque rogues...

Handel's most famous composition THE MESSIAH was composed around 423 hertz.

For example, in the premier of Handel’s Messiah, Handel used a tuning fork ( which we still. have!) that vibrates at 423 Hz. The difference from modern ...
www-unix.oit.umass.edu...

namaste

Raphael

posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 03:07 PM

Bach work is decoded in:

Bach and the Riddle of the Number Alphabet

On page 30:
Bach = 14 and JSBach = 41 (mirror code)

But how does thiw work for Handel with 423 ?

[edit on 8-1-2009 by hawk123]

posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 01:11 AM

Go right back to page one of this thread. Read the title and the first post. Change the title of the thread or start a new one. Deny ignorance. I don't care who you think the NWO is but crediting Goebbels and then following up the way you did just got the Nazis involved to sensationalize the whole thread. People came into the thread and got on the Nazi bandwagon. Why give the Nazis credit for something that they didn't do. Neither did Goebbels according to the facts compared to the premise of the whole thread. Anyways, as A440 is still the accepted tuning standard by the majority and works well for the majority why continue to try to force a change? There are many people using instruments that depend on that standard and I don't see any reason for destroying their pleasure just to prove a point right or wrong. If there is a hidden agenda by the socalled NWO it hasn't made a big difference to any of the thousands of musicians I'm familiar with who use that standard. Check the thread on conversion to the Metric system. Who cares whos right and who is wrong. Theres a lot worse things happening right now and they don't have a thing to do with the tuning standard.

[edit on 16-1-2009 by michial]

posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 05:24 AM
michial,
the only ones discussing nazi`s on this thread is ....um....YOU

you on a Nazi kick or something??

Goebbels was a genius at the art of controlling the masses
regardless of his employment at the time.
( by that I mean I don`t care where he came from or who he served.)
the fact still stands that he had a hand in trying to make 440
the "WORLD STANDARD CONCERT PITCH".
and at that time Goebbels was the UNDISPUTED KING
of Propaganda.

anyway, there is an interesting thread that came up that is
discussing something called the "Lilly Wave"
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I wonder if there are any connections to 440 and this wave?

posted on Jan, 21 2009 @ 12:47 PM

Originally posted by Maya432
michial,
the only ones discussing nazi`s on this thread is ....um....YOU

you on a Nazi kick or something??

Goebbels was a genius at the art of controlling the masses
regardless of his employment at the time.
( by that I mean I don`t care where he came from or who he served.)
the fact still stands that he had a hand in trying to make 440
the "WORLD STANDARD CONCERT PITCH".
and at that time Goebbels was the UNDISPUTED KING
of Propaganda.

440 x 3/2 = 660

Gematria of a aryan nazi = 660
Gematria of Adolf hitler using, A=6, B=12...Z=156, is 660

In nazi Germany they used the Hollerith 60-column punch card with 600 hole punch possibilities

And more Nazi 660 stuff on:

Again the radius of the earth as measured by the moon.
31680 = 72 x 440 = 60 x 528 = 48 x 660

And remember that 528 is the Baphomet code.

It is all part of the Galgal wheel.
www.biblewheel.com...

[edit on 21-1-2009 by hawk123]

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