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Originally posted by DeadFlagBlues
reply to post by discomfit
And good on you for getting a gun. Better safe than sorry.
Originally posted by BitRaiser
I'm still against killing a thief, even if you catch him red handed.
Originally posted by discomfit
I think most people agree with you. The dilemma becomes this - are you will to run the risk of being killed by a thief if you don't kill them ? Or maybe he won't kill you. Maybe they'll just stab you, or break your nose or whatever.
Originally posted by Mister J
At what point do you call it premeditation? Do you walk around with a stop watch and when you see a crime being committed immediately start it? If the time goes over 10 seconds its premeditation. Sorry lady, I can't stop that monster from raping you, I waited more than 10 seconds and I put way too much thought into it. This will also be a sad indication of the state of society if an individual can't stop a crime from being committed without becoming a criminal himself.
Originally posted by eyewitness86
...this mad dog killer decided to murder two human beings and found the perfect opportunity to do so.
This will also be a sad indication of the state of society if an individual can't stop a crime from being committed without becoming a criminal himself.
He grabbed a 12-gauge shotgun and called 911, Lambright said.
"Uh, I've got a shotgun," he told the dispatcher. "Uh, do you want me to stop them?"
"Nope, don't do that," the dispatcher responded. "Ain't no property worth shooting somebody over, OK?"
Horn and the dispatcher spoke for several minutes, during which Horn pleaded with the dispatcher to someone to catch the men and vowed not to let them escape. Over and over, the dispatcher told him to stay inside. Horn repeatedly said he couldn't.
When the men crawled back out the window carrying a bag, Horn began to sound increasingly frantic.
"Well, here it goes, buddy," Horn said as a shell clicked into the chamber. "You hear the shotgun clicking, and I'm going."
Originally posted by CoffinFeeder
Despite some of the more mamby pamby and wishy washy here, I think this guy did something good and right. Its certainly easy to sit back in your comfortable chair in your gated community while watching your big screen TV ...
[and so on]
that, and from the sources I've talked to over the years, the thing they've all said in common (about the only thing) is that if you shoot someone, you shoot to kill. Period, end of story, no what if's ands or buts. dead men raise no lawsuits, and the law is also much more clear, well defined and on your side in this case.
as for self defense, that brings up rule #2. don't ever even think of picking up a gun unless you're fully prepared to use it for its intended purpose. There is no such thing as a wounding weapon, just a misapplied killing weapon.
Originally posted by Jim_Kraken
I think a very long prison sentence for the shooter, perhaps in a mental hospital, is certainly in order. He apparently sees himself as God's avenging angel which will kill at the slightest of provocation.