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Adam & Eve's Incest Scandal!!


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Topic started on 28-11-2007 @ 05:18 AM by sethdarke


Im just curious, some say that Adam and Eve were the only 2 people on the planet, 2 people, adam, and eve...so my question is,,,,after adam and eve had sinned, and they got kicked out of paradise,,,who exactly are all these other people mentioned in the bible, i mean they had two sons, kane and abel, kane killed abel, so they had one son left,,,if adam and eve were originally the ONLY 2 people on the planet, are u telling me then that kane slept with his mother, or did eve have another child, a daughter and in turn adam and abel fornicated with their own mother and sister,,,and then whole world is the result of incest ?? or whats going on here.....

Others say again that Adam was the male population and eve the female population, and that when they talk about adam and eve, they are talking not about just one man and one woman, but many men and woman....



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reply posted on 28-11-2007 @ 05:24 AM by redmage


The short answer...

It's a story, not historical fact.



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reply posted on 28-11-2007 @ 05:26 AM by sethdarke


Yes yes, some believe it's just a "story"

But i am asking those firm bible believers who believe everything the bible tells them, those who actually believe that adam and eve were on earth,,and blah blah,,, do u understand now ?



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reply posted on 28-11-2007 @ 05:40 AM by justyc


perhaps you should actually read the bible.

adam and eve (if you ignore his 2 previous wives) actually had many children - cain, abel and seth are named but it later says they had other sons and daughters. cain murdered abel and was banished to live with the people of the land of nod.

this is why you should always question what you are told.



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reply posted on 28-11-2007 @ 05:53 AM by sethdarke


Still doesn't make sense



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reply posted on 28-11-2007 @ 06:01 AM by shearder


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That's because you live in Cape Town LMAO
The bible sometimes doesn't make sense and is not meant to be taken literally.



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reply posted on 28-11-2007 @ 06:02 AM by C.C.Benjamin


It's a story based on real events that has been translated and orally passed along for thousands of years. It's unlikely to be completely accurate, but the general gist is there.



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reply posted on 28-11-2007 @ 06:07 AM by jedimiller


Hard question. let's suppose you and your sister were the only ones left on earth? then what? you would ask god to let you have relations with your sister for the good of humanity and continue. but you wouldn't be doing it for lust or any other sexual pleasure. only to survive. So adam and eve being the first people on earth got a break.


After God saw all of these wrong doings he stopped it later. they learned from their mistakes..so it's wrong to do it now, but perhaps it was the right thing to do back then. For the mess up Eve got us all into.



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reply posted on 28-11-2007 @ 06:19 AM by monkey_descendant


Someone once told me the answer to the adam and eve problem was that they were the first people created, but others where also being created around the earth. I'd like to know why all people are born sinners if only adam and eve ate the apple while there were other people being created



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reply posted on 28-11-2007 @ 06:25 AM by jedimiller


but how do you consider it to be incest? adam and ever were not siblings. they were not related persay like brothers and sisters today. god created each on individually..think like someone giving you a girlfriend. that's not incest.



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reply posted on 28-11-2007 @ 06:30 AM by shearder



Originally posted by monkey_descendantI'd like to know why all people are born sinners if only adam and eve ate the apple while there were other people being created


It was metaphorical. It isn't literal.

We still eat apples today so we are all sinning then. The bible does not specifically say Apple but "fruit". It was a forbidden fruit... it could have been anything . It may have been a sin of the flesh? Who knows for sure 100% with it being metaphorical.



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reply posted on 28-11-2007 @ 06:36 AM by jedimiller


come on guys. they ate the fruit of knowledge, from the tree of knowing good and evil. it's not an apple.

read more here.

en.wikipedia.org...



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reply posted on 28-11-2007 @ 06:50 AM by dbates


Adam and Eve were created as nearly perfect human specimens. Go back and read the first few chapters of Genesis and you'll see that people used to live to be over 900 years old. There was no problem with Cain or Abel marrying one of their sisters at this point. Since there were no genetic defects, there was no risk or issue with marrying such a close relative. Today we don't marry so close into the family out of fear of genetic defects. If you have a genetic disorder and marry your sister/cousin, there's a good chance your children will have the same problem. That wasn't an issue at the time.

If you think that's odd, you should read about Lot's daughters getting pregnant by their father (Gen 19:33–36), Abraham was married to his half-sister, and Moses was the result of a man marrying his aunt. (Exod 6:20)

The word "incest" was first broadly used in the 1200s and came to be law after the royal family was exposed as having numerous genetic flaws due to constant inbreeding. The actual written laws didn't come about until 1620 an even then it only appled to members of the royal court. Today most states have laws against marrying brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers, aunts, and uncles. May have laws against marrying cousin, but I doubt they would stand as lawful if challenged. After-all we don't prohibit people with cystc-fibrosis from marrying others who have the same genetic flaw.

One final thought. Charles Darwin and Albert Einstein both married their cousin. How about that?



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reply posted on 28-11-2007 @ 06:55 AM by blueorder


I read it as a metaphor, not literal- as for incest, it is downright extremely disturbing, even for cousins

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reply posted on 28-11-2007 @ 06:56 AM by jedimiller



Originally posted by blueorder
I read it as a metaphor, not literal- as for incest, it is just extremely disturbing, even for cousins


A bit off topic. but when I was younger I had a crush on my cousin. I told herI would marry her and give her kitchen supplies. I was about 10 years old. talking nonsense of course. would I have sexual relations with her? no. not after what I know now.



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reply posted on 28-11-2007 @ 07:07 AM by redmage



Originally posted by jedimiller
but how do you consider it to be incest? adam and ever were not siblings. they were not related persay like brothers and sisters today. god created each on individually..


"Individually"? And here I thought the story went... "God created Eve from Adam's rib". That version would lead one to believe that they shared DNA (much like a brother/sister, or Father/Daughter relation).

Also, if you read justyc's post, "Adam and Eve actually had many children - Cain, Abel, and Seth are named, but it later says they had other sons and daughters". Who were these children reproducing with (if not their siblings)?



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reply posted on 28-11-2007 @ 07:21 AM by sethdarke


Where the hell are the people who believe that adam and eve were the only 2 people on earth ??



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reply posted on 28-11-2007 @ 07:33 AM by kacou


One way (evolution) or an other (creationism ) we all sister and brother producing offspring to populate the world.
Now if any one think that the taboo of incest is as old as humanity then think again because incest is a taboo brought to you by your world local religion.
Before the Abramic religions they where no such thing as incest…the question is why?
If any one care to give he’s view.

Kacou



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reply posted on 28-11-2007 @ 07:40 AM by jedimiller



Originally posted by kacou
One way (evolution) or an other (creationism ) we all sister and brother producing offspring to populate the world.
Now if any one think that the taboo of incest is as old as humanity then think again because incest is a taboo brought to you by your world local religion.
Before the Abramic religions they where no such thing as incest…the question is why?
If any one care to give he’s view.

Kacou



Because the bible is the final word. the bible says it's wrong. jesus said it was wrong. therefore, all of our foundations here in America come from the bible. our founding fathers used the ten commandments, the bible to make the laws. if it wasn't for the bible, people would still be performing numerous incest cases. hope this helps.



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reply posted on 28-11-2007 @ 07:43 AM by marg6043


Well the bible does have more than one incest case in it's recollections, also is many interesting cases of hallucinations, paranoia and delusions by some the main characters.



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