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Topic started on 22-11-2007 @ 04:32 PM by ModernAcademia
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Warrentless police coercion to try to find guns in kid's bedrooms. You know exactly what will happen, If you got nothing to hide you will let us
search your kids bedroom. Intimidation at it's worst.
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reply posted on 22-11-2007 @ 04:42 PM by Gools
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Parents are free to turn down the police request?
Riiiiight... and I'm sure their names don't go onto a "list" or into a database for future reference.
It's ok though, I'm sure some flag-waving, bumper-sticker slogan believing, brown-shirt will be along shortly to tell us that were just some stupid
liberals over reacting again or that it's for your own good/safety blah-duh-blah.
Nope! No police state in the US... can't ever happen... land of the free, home of the brave... rah... rah... rah... USA!... USA!... USA!... NASCAR
rules man!!! /sarcasm
Enjoy your gilded cages you mindless, frightened, cowering masses. You deserve what's coming and it's coming faster than you could ever imagine.
Wribbit!!
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reply posted on 22-11-2007 @ 04:50 PM by Camar
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talk about an illegal search, watch this cop tell the wife he's gonna search her car.
www.youtube.com...
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reply posted on 22-11-2007 @ 04:54 PM by Throbber
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If i wasn't so paranoid, i'd praise the boston police for taking a direct approach to gun crime and it's effect of the youth of tomorrow.
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reply posted on 22-11-2007 @ 04:57 PM by Camar
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Really? Warrantless searches for guns in kid's bedrooms. How can that be praiseworthy?
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reply posted on 22-11-2007 @ 05:03 PM by Throbber
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It shows that the individuals within those precincts are aware of what they're doing and are still going ahead with it.
Are you saying the law is praiseworthy for protecting the rights of children to bear arms?
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reply posted on 22-11-2007 @ 05:29 PM by Camar
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What? Children bearing arms? I dont understand.
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reply posted on 22-11-2007 @ 05:32 PM by Throbber
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It would seem apparent you have no clue as to why these homes are apparently being searched.
Are you ignoring the information in front of you for a reason or are you just ignorantly denying ignorance?
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reply posted on 22-11-2007 @ 05:47 PM by x-phile
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If I lived in neighborhoods in Boston where crack dealers are in control and there is a prostitute on every corner I would escort the detectives to
each door !!
program in St Louis
The program is modeled after one that began in 1994 in St. Louis and ended in 1999, partly because funding ran out. Boston police said that in the
first year of the St. Louis program, police were allowed into 98 percent of homes contacted and that guns were seized in half of them.
50% success rate.
Lets say the St Louis police searched 500 homes per year.
Thats over 1250 guns off the streets.
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reply posted on 22-11-2007 @ 06:01 PM by wingman77
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What criteria is used to determine which individuals legally possess their firearms? What if someone has a rifle that was passed down in the family?
What happens to the individuals who are deemed to be in illegal possession of a firearm? Do they round them up and throw them all into juvi so they
can become real criminals?
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reply posted on 22-11-2007 @ 06:39 PM by ModernAcademia
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1) CIA plants drugs into ghetto and has been for years
Result: War on Drugs, let's make arrest all them ghetto dudes!
2) U.S. is the biggest arms dealer on the planet and does nothing for gun control
Result: Let's invade homes!
I am disgusted at some of you for defending this stance!
This is why cops are being called pigs.
Poo, someone invade police homes and confiscate their tazers!
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reply posted on 22-11-2007 @ 06:55 PM by Badge01
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What's to keep the cop(s) from planting illegal guns or drugs or something when they do their 'search'?
Why not ask them to reschedule when you can have your lawyer there for protection. Then film the entire search so there's little chance of them
mucking around.
In fact if you're not under arrest why even answer the door? There's no law saying you have to do that - of course they could then drum up some
excuse and pretend they though a crime was happening and break in.
Sheesh.
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reply posted on 22-11-2007 @ 07:37 PM by x-phile
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Originally posted by wingman77What happens to the individuals who are deemed to be in illegal possession of a firearm?
Nothing.
The detectives only want to confiscate the weapon. No charges will come of it. That is the understanding. C'mon people. Less weapons in the hands on
minors is a good thing, RIGHT? Am I way off base here?
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reply posted on 22-11-2007 @ 07:43 PM by Camar
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reply posted on 22-11-2007 @ 07:49 PM by Camar
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Searching childrens rooms for parents guns? Sure, I guess it will take guns out of the hands of minors.....but since when is this a big problem?
I guess this goes along with "H.R. 1955: Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007"
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reply posted on 22-11-2007 @ 07:50 PM by Camar
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Originally posted by Throbber
reply to post by Camar
It would seem apparent you have no clue as to why these homes are apparently being searched.
Are you ignoring the information in front of you for a reason or are you just ignorantly denying ignorance?
Which information would that be?
No, I have no clue as to why these cops are doing searches
x-phile: do you really think that the cops only want to confiscate weapons found in children's rooms? Don't you think Childrens Services would get
involved? I can't think of a more fascist organization.
You know, maybe I don't know Boston and don't understand why folks in Boston would like the cops barging into their homes uninvited and searching
their kids rooms for guns.
But what if the cops see something in another room? There is no warrant so there are no rules, anything goes. Use the imagination.
This is not good, and I guarantee you that if they come to my house there will be a fight.
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reply posted on 22-11-2007 @ 07:54 PM by antmax21
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it should not matter what the search is for...
we are to have rights that limit authorities to search without a warrant. You fools who fall for this public safety, watchful eye crap are losing
your rights. Unless there is a warrant there is no search, the reason is of no matter. A warrant places what is to be searched and what is to be
looked for. Stop giving excuses or next they'll be taking the parent's registered weapons...
DO NOT BE A TOOL
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reply posted on 22-11-2007 @ 08:03 PM by x-phile
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Have you read anything about this?
The police aren't kicking in doors and searching without warrants. In many cases parents have asked the police to search their homes voluntarily.
You CAN say NO!
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reply posted on 22-11-2007 @ 08:11 PM by Camar
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x-phile:
You can say no? How many of those folks know that? Cops come to the door and say "we are here to search your house for weapons" And people say
no!? Are you joking?
Yes they are searching without warrants, that is the point of the newscast.
Parents are ASKING the cops to search their kids rooms?! WHY? That does not even make sense to me.
No I haven't read anything about it, other than what I have seen here. But I will certainly be looking into it.
You can say no? Heheheh. I guess the cops in Canada don't ever intimidate anyone into giving up their rights. You have rights in Canada, yes?
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reply posted on 22-11-2007 @ 08:12 PM by antmax21
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But people are so confused today they don't even understand simple laws anymore. I never said anything about knocking doors and coming in illegally.
Hopefully the citizens are smart enough to understand they have a right against unreasonable search and seizures.
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