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Originally posted by x-phile
Originally posted by wingman77What happens to the individuals who are deemed to be in illegal possession of a firearm?
The detectives only want to confiscate the weapon. No charges will come of it. That is the understanding. C'mon people. Less weapons in the hands on minors is a good thing, RIGHT? Am I way off base here?
Originally posted by eyewitness86
BUT, the main poiint is that the cop did NOT have ANY reason to search after the guy was in the patrol car....and the fact that he agreed to let the wife drive away should have ended it:
police may perform a quick surface search of the person's outer clothing for weapons if they have reasonable suspicion that the person stopped is armed. This reasonable suspicion must be based on “specific and articulable facts” and not merely upon an officer's hunch. This permitted police action has subsequently been referred to in short as a “stop and frisk”, or simply a “Terry stop”. The Terry standard was later extended to temporary detentions of persons in vehicles, known as traffic stops.
Originally posted by Throbber
I use the word 'we' here, but let me make it clear i can defend myself without having to resort to shooting someone in the head (you don't have to defend yourself if you can avoid getting into a situation where you are forced to defend yourself, for example*).
Important to note, however - is that gun crime is the issue here, not your rights.
Originally posted by kozmo
Folks - your best bet is a.) NEVER answer the door for the cops b.) Never answer a single question except for your name and address c.) Never volunteer anything - a search, information, access to your vehicle or home or property etc... and d.) always cooperate to the extent that the law demands while stopiing short of giving up your rights.
I have no use for these pigs! They don't keep us safe - we are plagued by violence, drugs and crime and these lazy pissasses sit along freeways, pulling people over for speeding and then taze them.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Wait, why shouldn't kids have guns? All the kids in my family have guns. We all shoot for a number of reasons.
Maybe if these idiots stop trying to ban things and limit things thereby making them special and magical these stupid clowns wouldn't look at a firearm as some tool of petty power or retribution?
Put the rifle teams back in the schools. Take a kid hunting. Go to the range. Join a gun club.
When's the last time a school with a rifle team had a shooting? When's the last time a kid who spends Saturdays in a tree stand with an adult go sling crack on the street corner?
Violent crime is on the rise in states with these ridiculously tight gun laws and irrational gun fears and it will continue to rise. It doesn't take a genius academic or government paid social worker to figure that one out.
Originally posted by avingard
reply to post by Throbber
You live in England so perhaps you don't know, in American it is illeagl for children to own guns (you said the law protected the rights of children to bear arms). You have to be 18 to own a gun
Boston police officials, surprised by intense opposition from residents, have significantly scaled back and delayed the start of a program that would allow officers to go into people's homes and search for guns without a warrant. ...
...Commissioner Edward F. Davis has been taken aback by the criticism. Source